From owner-freebsd-arch Sun Feb 25 13:29:45 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Received: from nagual.pp.ru (pobrecita.freebsd.ru [194.87.13.42]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B3D337B401; Sun, 25 Feb 2001 13:29:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ache@nagual.pp.ru) Received: (from ache@localhost) by nagual.pp.ru (8.11.2/8.11.2) id f1PLTau59870; Mon, 26 Feb 2001 00:29:36 +0300 (MSK) (envelope-from ache) Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 00:29:35 +0300 From: "Andrey A. Chernov" To: arch@FreeBSD.org Cc: "Jacques A. Vidrine" , Matt Dillon , Bruce Evans , Kris Kennaway , Robert Watson , Nick Sayer , cvs-all@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: rand.c patch for review (was: Re: cvs commit: ports/astro/xglobe/files patch-random) Message-ID: <20010226002934.A59772@nagual.pp.ru> References: <200102250900.f1P90Qc12868@earth.backplane.com> <20010225092416.A46959@hamlet.nectar.com> <20010225185535.A55782@nagual.pp.ru> <20010225191316.A56093@nagual.pp.ru> <20010225193409.A56351@nagual.pp.ru> <20010225131002.A38192@mollari.cthul.hu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="xHFwDpU9dbj6ez1V" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010225131002.A38192@mollari.cthul.hu>; from kris@obsecurity.org on Sun, Feb 25, 2001 at 01:10:02PM -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --xHFwDpU9dbj6ez1V Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Feb 25, 2001 at 13:10:02 -0800, Kris Kennaway wrote: > On Sun, Feb 25, 2001 at 07:34:09PM +0300, Andrey A. Chernov wrote: > > On Sun, Feb 25, 2001 at 19:13:17 +0300, Andrey A. Chernov wrote: > > > On Sun, Feb 25, 2001 at 18:55:36 +0300, Andrey A. Chernov wrote: > > > > On Sun, Feb 25, 2001 at 09:24:16 -0600, Jacques A. Vidrine wrote: > > > > > My conclusion is that either: > > > > > =20 > > > > > Our implementation of `rand' loses. =20 > > > >=20 > > > > We can easily improve much our rand() random distribution staying i= nside > > > > the same API by using just different calculation formula, as we alr= eady do > > > > with random(). I plan to do it long time ago, but lost interest. I = can dig > > > > out this formula, if someone is interested. > > >=20 > > > We already use this formula (in different context), see > > > good_rand() function in stdlib/random.c > >=20 > > Patch for review: >=20 > Can't you just wrap it around random() and srandom() instead of > duplicating the code? They can't be wrapped, they use completely different technique and must keep their state independently - see the rest of discussion.=20 Currenty only small portion of non-essential code from random.c is duplicated. good_rand() from random.c have different arg type and not truncate its return result - it means 1) wrapper code will be bigger than few lines of original code 2) whole random.o module will be linked increasing static binary size with big tables completely unneded for rand(). Few lines of code not worth to separate good_rand() into small file especially for it. --=20 Andrey A. Chernov http://ache.pp.ru/ --xHFwDpU9dbj6ez1V Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3ia iQCVAwUBOpl5PuJgpPLZnQjrAQFHEAP/R8YyyCsrwTykJUotzCvtFY3U1DcBuXo9 fra1v+6BbfE51FU7EpGx9SP0CooZrF7m8qWrBRuG2/pvtJWu18/eg+/3z02D1MV4 UEd0jYYuTiAr4n1XG2Bo8WmvXfVDpRfxDKckbHhhZoT9q3vuxIuCvyUNR/pUM/rN CO3wvf0UvD8= =yy0s -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --xHFwDpU9dbj6ez1V-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-arch" in the body of the message