From owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Apr 17 12:06:02 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Received: from green.homeunix.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8289A16A4CE; Sat, 17 Apr 2004 12:06:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (green@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by green.homeunix.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i3HJ5xiY041132; Sat, 17 Apr 2004 15:06:00 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from green@green.homeunix.org) Message-Id: <200404171906.i3HJ5xiY041132@green.homeunix.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.6.3 04/04/2003 with nmh-1.0.4 To: Garrett Wollman In-Reply-To: Message from Garrett Wollman <200404171802.i3HI26T4026258@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> From: "Brian F. Feldman" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2004 15:05:59 -0400 Sender: green@green.homeunix.org cc: arch@freebsd.org Subject: Re: kqueue giant-locking (&kq_Giant, locking) X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2004 19:06:02 -0000 Garrett Wollman wrote: > < said: > > > Contrived. Let's see one. There won't be any -- they will be using > > threads, not kqueues, because threads work on more than one system. > > Except, of course, that the thread library may use kqueue internally. Then we don't do that. > > In case > > you didn't notice, kqueues have been horribly broken for years now > > For values of ``horribly broken'' apparently equal to ``not understood > by green''. For values of ``horribly broken'' apparently equal to ``does not respect any locking constraints,'' ``does not have semantics which support the idea of a non-spl system,'' and ones like that, yeah. -- Brian Fundakowski Feldman \'[ FreeBSD ]''''''''''\ <> green@FreeBSD.org \ The Power to Serve! \ Opinions expressed are my own. \,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,\