From owner-freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 1 21:28:41 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 230281C5 for ; Tue, 1 Oct 2013 21:28:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mueller6721@twc.com) Received: from cdptpa-oedge-vip.email.rr.com (cdptpa-outbound-snat.email.rr.com [107.14.166.225]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E08242BDA for ; Tue, 1 Oct 2013 21:28:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [74.130.200.176] ([74.130.200.176:65038] helo=localhost) by cdptpa-oedge02 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.5.0.35861 r(Momo-dev:tip)) with ESMTP id 62/35-16944-68E3B425; Tue, 01 Oct 2013 21:28:39 +0000 Date: Tue, 01 Oct 2013 21:28:38 +0000 Message-ID: <62.35.16944.68E3B425@cdptpa-oedge02> From: "Thomas Mueller" To: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [HEADS UP] Fwd: svn commit: r328711 - in head: . Mk astro/viking cad/pdnmesh cad/repsnapper deskutils/pinot devel/xorg-macros emulators/catapult emulators/qemu-devel emulators/tme games/klavaro games/sea-defender .. X-RR-Connecting-IP: 107.14.168.130:25 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 Cc: Kevin Oberman , Niclas Zeising X-BeenThere: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: X11 on FreeBSD -- maintaining and support List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 01 Oct 2013 21:28:41 -0000 > Not to be contrary, but I think this is an exceptionally bad time to switch > to current if you want stability. Maybe in another week, but not quite yet. > When code freeze is upon us, there are LOTS of commits of WIP, and things > tend to break rather badly for a few days. These issues are normally fixed > fairly quickly, but it takes a little time and, from the issues raised in > mail to current@, things are still a bit rough. > I really don't want to discourage the use of 10.0 as more use is far better > for a solid release, but running current can be a bit more risky, and > running it right after freeze is especially so. (So is running it right > after current is re-opened after release.) I'd recommend waiting until > around 10/10. (I like this date as it is the same whether your locality > puts month or day first). By then current should be pretty stable. -- > R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer As Niclas Zeising points out, current/head may be not so bad. On main computer from June 2011, I use 9.2 prerelease, getting ready to source-upgrade, on both hard drive and USB stick. I may even install 9.2 i386 on a USB 3.0 stick, wine being the big reason. But on MSI Z77 MPOWER motherboard, I would build FreeBSD-current from 9.2 amd64 USB 2.0 stick, but Realtek 9111E re0 doesn't work on Z77 MPOWER motherboard, using 9.2 USB-stick installation, though it works on main computer. I don't really know if re0 would work on FreeBSD-current on MSI Z77 MPOWER, but there is also a device rsu in $SRCDIR/sys/conf/NOTES that might work with Hiro H50191 USB-stick WLAN adapter, chip Realtek RTL8191SU 802.11n . This Ethernet works with re0 in NetBSD-current amd64 (NetBSD 6.1_STABLE consistently hung on boot) but not OpenBSD 5.3 Live USB; seems to be good with Linux. So I source-upgraded my USB-stick installation of NetBSD-current amd64 (they use cvs), packages too from pkgsrc, then built subversion and checked out FreeBSD-current source tree. Now I can build FreeBSD-current using FreeBSD 9.2 USB stick unless I dare to cross-compile from NetBSD, think FreeBSD would have the better chance of success. But I would svn update first, from NetBSD-current amd64. I feel like current is the only FreeBSD option for the MSI Z77 MPOWER, also the only NetBSD option. It seems this thread should really be on freebsd-current? Tom