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Date:      Wed, 22 Dec 1999 09:31:53 +0100
From:      Poul-Henning Kamp <phk@critter.freebsd.dk>
To:        Greg Lehey <grog@lemis.com>
Cc:        Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven <asmodai@bart.nl>, Mark Murray <mark@grondar.za>, "Andrey A. Chernov" <ache@FreeBSD.org>, cvs-committers@FreeBSD.org, cvs-all@FreeBSD.org
Subject:   Re: Names (was: cvs commit: src/share/colldef cs_CZ.ISO_8859-2.src Makefile) 
Message-ID:  <18545.945851513@critter.freebsd.dk>
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 22 Dec 1999 18:50:40 %2B1030." <19991222185040.D1316@freebie.lemis.com> 

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In message <19991222185040.D1316@freebie.lemis.com>, Greg Lehey writes:
>On Wednesday, 22 December 1999 at  9:08:35 +0100, Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven wrote:
>> -On [19991222 06:55], Mark Murray (mark@grondar.za) wrote:
>>>> I assume that this guy's first name is Rudolf.  I wonder how many
>>>> people reading this would think it's Cejka.  Could we agree to put the
>>>> first first and the last last, at least for European cultures?
>>>
>>> Better - completely capitalise the surname.
>>
>> AFAIk that's only used in Japanese and likewise cultures when they are
>> using western type characters.
>>
>> I have _never_ seen it in use in Europe.
>
>It's relatively common in Central and Eastern Europe, even as close to
>you as Germany.  I see it from time to time in the German chat list,
>and in Germany almost all official letters address you the wrong way
>round.  In my case, it really confused people because they couldn't
>recognize a first name in either "Greg" or "Lehey".

I had a very interesting sequence of faxes with a customer in Wien
some years back, from memory it went like:

me to them:
		bla bla bla bla
		Poul-Henning Kamp

them to me:
		Dear Mr Poul Kamp,

me to them
		bla bla
		Poul-Henning

them to me:
		Dear Mr Poul (Kamp) Henning,

me to them

		bla bla
		Poul-Henning Kamp

Them to me:

		Dear Mr Poul,

		Which is your first name and which is your last name ?



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Poul-Henning Kamp             FreeBSD coreteam member
phk@FreeBSD.ORG               "Real hackers run -current on their laptop."
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