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Date:      Mon, 15 Jan 2007 00:09:07 +0900 (JST)
From:      Hiroki Sato <hrs@FreeBSD.org>
To:        blackend@FreeBSD.org
Cc:        linimon@lonesome.com, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, rwatson@FreeBSD.org, keramida@FreeBSD.org, wes@opensail.org
Subject:   Re: Slides, papers, etc.
Message-ID:  <20070115.000907.32439009.hrs@allbsd.org>
In-Reply-To: <20070114104022.GC65886@abigail.blackend.org>
References:  <20070113125711.GB16664@soaustin.net> <20070114033349.GB2734@kobe.laptop> <20070114104022.GC65886@abigail.blackend.org>

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Marc Fonvieille <blackend@freebsd.org> wrote
  in <20070114104022.GC65886@abigail.blackend.org>:

bl> On Sun, Jan 14, 2007 at 05:33:49AM +0200, Giorgos Keramidas wrote:
bl> > On 2007-01-13 06:57, Mark Linimon <linimon@lonesome.com> wrote:
bl> > > I know I'm too stupid to put a .pdf into the wiki.
bl> > > How about the projects/ repository?
bl> >
bl> > I was initially toying around with the idea of an "advocacy" collection
bl> > of presentations, and other material that developers and other
bl> > interested people can use to promote FreeBSD.
bl> >
bl> > Some times, presentation material contains large "blobs" of stuff which
bl> > is, essentially, not well suited for storing inside CVS though.  For
bl> > example, it's nice to have a collection of compressed PDF documents, but
bl> > I'm not sure how well CVS can handle multiple copies, revisions and
bl> > updates to these documents, without bloating the repository too much.
bl> >
bl> > On 2007-01-13 14:22, Marc Fonvieille <blackend@freebsd.org> wrote:
bl> > > doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/slides already contains some presentations about
bl> > > FreeBSD, it's possible to add more (and up to date) presentations.
bl> >
bl> > These are written with DocBook/XML-slides though.  I haven't worked a
bl> > lot with DocBook/slides, but the HTML output it generates is AFAICT very
bl> > "plain".
bl> >
bl> > It is, nevertheless, extremely nice that the slides are in a readable,
bl> > plain text format, which can be versioned, edited, reviewed, and
bl> > distributed easily with CVS.  We can leverage the existing network of
bl> > CVSup servers to distribute copies of presentations stored in
bl> > `doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/slides/'.  We can integrate their build to our web
bl> > site very easily.  We can cross reference, index, and present these as
bl> > part of out advocacy web site section.  All these advantages are, at
bl> > least for me, very important.
bl> >
bl> > Now, if we can find a nice way to attach a nicely designed, professional
bl> > looking CSS stylesheet to these slide collections, that would be great!
bl> > If we can also get someone who is experienced with DocBook/XML-slides to
bl> > write up a short "Internationalization Cookbook for FreeBSD slides"
bl> > tutorial, we would really have something going :)
bl> >
bl>
bl> Maybe Murray can help a bit on this (Cced).  I'm not against the fact we
bl> also could use Beamer for some presentations with the advantage of a
bl> very nice rendering, easy to learn, text source files, pdf rendering and
bl> buildable with the current full docproj installation.  On another hand I
bl> know OOo can export files to DocBook but I don't know if it can be
bl> directly useable in our DocBook/XML-slides environment.

 Well, what do you think about simply importing FreeBSD-related
 presentation materials into the doc tree for the moment like OpenBSD
 project does?  I often think we should have such a collection of
 presentations in our web site if possible, too, but often forget the
 URLs or get "404 not found" if I find them.

 I think we can store them into doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/slides in the
 original format and create the "collection of presentations" page.
 Converting them to another format is generally difficult and it is
 not a good idea to force the authors to use DocBook-slides or so.

--
| Hiroki SATO

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