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Sun, 16 Nov 2025 22:29:13 -0800 (PST) List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-current List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Warner Losh Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2025 23:29:07 -0700 X-Gm-Features: AWmQ_bkhE3J--jXFfdCq-btdxyz5ePJLaRMlcLuUJB-71a4cV7_lcRaWlTdTiQQ Message-ID: Subject: Re: WITHOUT_CLEAN confusion in -current To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org, freebsd-arm@freebsd.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="00000000000040bcda0643c477aa" X-Spamd-Bar: -- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.00 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; FORGED_SENDER(0.30)[imp@bsdimp.com,wlosh@bsdimp.com]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[bsdimp-com.20230601.gappssmtp.com:s=20230601]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[no SPF record]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; RCVD_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; MISSING_XM_UA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[bsdimp.com]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-current@freebsd.org]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[imp@bsdimp.com,wlosh@bsdimp.com]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[2607:f8b0:4864:20::102d:from]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-current@freebsd.org]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[bsdimp-com.20230601.gappssmtp.com:+] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4d8yWg5R84z3V5B --00000000000040bcda0643c477aa Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Nov 16, 2025 at 6:14=E2=80=AFPM void wrote: > Hi, > > The context this was tested in was armv7. Not tested in others. > Sources are n281932 2025-11-16 > > When running 'make -j2 -DNOCLEAN buildworld' the warning > > "make[2]: /usr/src/Makefile.inc1:482: warning: The src.conf WITHOUT_CLEAN > option can now be used instead of NOCLEAN." > > is emitted (but the build continues and the warning seems harmless) > > After stopping the build and adding WITHOUT_CLEAN to /etc/src.conf > and starting it again like so: > 'make -j2 buildworld' > > the build fails with > > make: /etc/src.conf:7: Invalid line "WITHOUT_CLEAN" > in /usr/src/share/mk/src.sys.mk:24 > in /usr/src/share/mk/local.sys.mk:58 > in /usr/src/share/mk/sys.mk:283 > make: Fatal errors encountered -- cannot continue As others have pointed out, this is almost certainly because you're missing a "=3Dy". You can keep using -DNOCLEAN, at least for as long as the warning is there. IT's what I use, though WITHOUT_CLEAN=3Dy is the default these days. 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On Sun, Nov 16,= 2025 at 6:14=E2=80=AFPM void <void@f-m.f= m> wrote:
Hi,

The context this was tested in was armv7. Not tested in others.
Sources are n281932 2025-11-16

When running 'make -j2 -DNOCLEAN buildworld' the warning

"make[2]: /usr/src/Makefile.inc1:482: warning: The src.conf WITHOUT_CL= EAN option can now be used instead of NOCLEAN."

is emitted (but the build continues and the warning seems harmless)

After stopping the build and adding WITHOUT_CLEAN to /etc/src.conf
and starting it again like so:
'make -j2 buildworld'

the build fails with

make: /etc/src.conf:7: Invalid line "WITHOUT_CLEAN"
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0in /usr/src/share/mk/src.sys.mk:24
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0in /usr/src/share/mk/local.sys.mk:58
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0in /usr/src/share/mk/sys.mk:283
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0make: Fatal errors encountered -- cannot = continue

As others have pointed out, this i= s almost certainly because you're missing a "=3Dy".

You can keep using -DNOCLEAN, at least for as long as the w= arning is there. IT's what I use, though WITHOUT_CLEAN=3Dy is the defau= lt these days.

Warner=C2=A0
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