From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 4 07:56:59 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0F23106566B for ; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 07:56:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@dreamchaser.org) Received: from nightmare.dreamchaser.org (nightmare.dreamchaser.org [12.32.44.142]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87A0C8FC0C for ; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 07:56:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from breakaway.dreamchaser.org (breakaway.dreamchaser.org. [12.32.36.73]) by nightmare.dreamchaser.org (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id q547uods000721; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 01:56:51 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from freebsd@dreamchaser.org) Message-ID: <4FCC6A41.6030408@dreamchaser.org> Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2012 01:56:49 -0600 From: Gary Aitken User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:12.0) Gecko/20120528 Thunderbird/12.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Polytropon References: <4FCB7BBF.7090603@dreamchaser.org> <7581F5930C4F42B28B1E4A5162491B35@astrolap> <4FCC1D4C.2020503@dreamchaser.org> <20120604050537.f2df2af2.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20120604050537.f2df2af2.freebsd@edvax.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (nightmare.dreamchaser.org [12.32.36.65]); Mon, 04 Jun 2012 01:56:51 -0600 (MDT) Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: umount device busy X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd@dreamchaser.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2012 07:56:59 -0000 On 06/03/12 21:05, Polytropon wrote: > Good idea. However, you can do efficient backups of "Windows" > data by using the "ntfsprogs" tools. This makes sure they can > even be read under non-"Windows" systems. I'll look into that. >>> if you are using xfce4, then you have most likely got gamin >>> running as well, this caused the same problem for me when >>> trying to umount an external USB drive >> >> gamin *is* installed, and I did have the file browser up and >> using it to look at the ntfs disk. I thought it might be >> holding a file open, so first I backed it out to something >> not on the ntfs disk, then exited it. Made no difference. > > Maybe the ganim "lock" is regarding a device file? Not sure > about that, I'm not using it here. I'm not sure what the deal is here, but exiting X does solve the problem. I didn't try just killing the environment by shutting down the wm and leaving X up, but if I forget and do something like that again I'll try to remember to try it. >> In any case, the mount was done after X was started, and switching >> vtys crashes X so I don't do that. > > That sounds a bit wrong... Agreed, but I saw someone else was having a similar problem with 9.0 release a bit earlier on a system, and no problem with 8.3. At least I think that was it. Hmmm, just looked and there's a firefox-bin.core and an xfce-appfinder.core. Timestamps look about right for when I did a vty switch. > Typo maybe? A command like "ps2ascii" sounds more reasonable if > we consider PS being the output format. The command duh. need sleep. thanks.