From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 14 08:14:33 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 528A237B442 for ; Wed, 14 May 2003 08:14:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.speakeasy.net (mail12.speakeasy.net [216.254.0.212]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B60B343F75 for ; Wed, 14 May 2003 08:14:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Received: (qmail 4119 invoked from network); 14 May 2003 15:14:34 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO server.baldwin.cx) ([216.27.160.63]) (envelope-sender )encrypted SMTP for ; 14 May 2003 15:14:34 -0000 Received: from laptop.baldwin.cx ([216.133.140.1]) by server.baldwin.cx (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h4EFETp0031217; Wed, 14 May 2003 11:14:29 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.5.4 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <200305131922.33556.wes@softweyr.com> Date: Wed, 14 May 2003 11:14:38 -0400 (EDT) From: John Baldwin To: Wes Peters cc: Jordan Hubbard cc: hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Supposed lack of code from Apple X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 May 2003 15:14:33 -0000 On 14-May-2003 Wes Peters wrote: > On Tuesday 13 May 2003 01:57, Jordan Hubbard wrote: >> >> jkh@freebsd-> grep DOOFUS /usr/include/sys/errno.h >> #define EDOOFUS 88 /* Programming error */ > > I think your tie is knotted a bit too snugly, it's cutting off the flow > of blood into your brain. > > If Apple wants to import FreeBSD code (it has been a very one-way > street, hasn't it?) Just a comment here. I think this last statement is bull. Apple has made lots of bugfixes to our code available in Darwin. All it takes is for someone to extract their lazy rear from a chair and import those fixes. We don't import our fixes into Darwin, Darwin developers do that. In the same way, it is rather absurd to require Darwin developers to backport their fixes to FreeBSD. That is the job of FreeBSD developers. As an example of how this can work, see the recent fixes to smbfs that bp@ imported from Darwin. -- John Baldwin <>< http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.FreeBSD.org/