From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 21 15:03:32 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D63851065695; Thu, 21 Oct 2010 15:03:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bruce@cran.org.uk) Received: from muon.cran.org.uk (muon.cran.org.uk [IPv6:2a01:348:0:15:5d59:5c40:0:1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95F218FC1C; Thu, 21 Oct 2010 15:03:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from muon.cran.org.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by muon.cran.org.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC09BE83C0; Thu, 21 Oct 2010 16:03:31 +0100 (BST) Received: from unknown (unknown [109.144.218.156]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by muon.cran.org.uk (Postfix) with ESMTPSA; Thu, 21 Oct 2010 16:03:30 +0100 (BST) Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2010 16:03:35 +0100 From: Bruce Cran To: Dag-Erling =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Sm=F8rgrav?= Message-ID: <20101021160335.00001c0a@unknown> In-Reply-To: <86vd4v7gx1.fsf@ds4.des.no> References: <201009161742.24228.tijl@coosemans.org> <201009161619.o8GGJAmv035378@lurza.secnetix.de> <20101018155944.GA12425@freebsd.org> <868w1r92rf.fsf@ds4.des.no> <20101021122110.GA65490@freebsd.org> <86zku77mj6.fsf@ds4.des.no> <20101021135442.000054c9@unknown> <86vd4v7gx1.fsf@ds4.des.no> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.4cvs1 (GTK+ 2.16.0; i586-pc-mingw32msvc) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: Alexander Best , mav@freebsd.org, Tijl Coosemans , Oliver Fromme , freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Summary: Re: Spin down HDD after disk sync or before power off X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2010 15:03:32 -0000 On Thu, 21 Oct 2010 16:35:06 +0200 Dag-Erling Sm=F8rgrav wrote: > Really? That would make the system close to unusable, and the disk's > life expectancy would be reduced to a few months; a disk that performs > two load / unload cycles per minute on average will need replacing > after three to six months. Remember, there was a huge flap a couple > of years when Ubuntu shipped with a default timeout of 90 seconds, > which is more than ten times more than what you suggest. The Ubuntu issue was what I was thinking of - I got that mixed up with the aggressive power management of the WD EARS drives. --=20 Bruce Cran