From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 23 14:32:49 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DEC322B for ; Wed, 23 Oct 2013 14:32:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4190023D9 for ; Wed, 23 Oct 2013 14:32:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-117-74.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.117.74]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C903F24F9C; Wed, 23 Oct 2013 16:32:47 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id r9NEWeh4002628; Wed, 23 Oct 2013 16:32:40 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2013 16:32:40 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Frank Leonhardt Subject: Re: click-click in floppy disk drive Message-Id: <20131023163240.80e2c650.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <5267DB5B.3040106@fjl.co.uk> References: <20131021135605.DSZ95987@ms5.mc.surewest.net> <20131022230000.9bfa7add.freebsd@edvax.de> <20131023134628.d91267ab.freebsd@edvax.de> <5267DB5B.3040106@fjl.co.uk> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2013 14:32:49 -0000 On Wed, 23 Oct 2013 15:21:15 +0100, Frank Leonhardt wrote: > The rot set in with the move from 8" to 5" in my view. Okay, before the > SA400 they weren't exactly standard but the cut-down interface missed > off the commonly fun fun lines like the one to tell you if the door was > open and the "lock door", to prevent the luser from whipping a diskette > out when you didn't want them to. Oh! What fun we had with that one :-) Have a look at MacIntosh computers and Sun workstations: Their 3.5" floppy disk drives did not have a mechanical eject button so as long as a disk was being accessed or mounted, the (l)user could not forcedly get the disk out of the machine. :-) I still have a "museum computer" here that operates with 5.25" floppy disks from the 1980s. The funny and surprising thing: It's _fully_ functional and the disk don't show any sign of degrading behaviour. Of course that's not a system one would use today for any kind of productive work, but the system itself, and all its components, still work as intended. Let's see if (and how) a "modern" laptop or PC from today would behave in the year 2048, which is 2^11. :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ...