From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Feb 3 20:34:33 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C01352B8AF for ; Wed, 3 Feb 2021 20:34:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kremels@kreme.com) Received: from mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (mailman.nyi.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::50:13]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DWD1h6lGlz3nSt for ; Wed, 3 Feb 2021 20:34:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kremels@kreme.com) Received: by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) id E5AC352B8AE; Wed, 3 Feb 2021 20:34:32 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E56C752B8AD for ; Wed, 3 Feb 2021 20:34:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kremels@kreme.com) Received: from mail.covisp.net (mail.covisp.net [65.121.55.42]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4DWD1h1vqfz3nYr for ; Wed, 3 Feb 2021 20:34:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kremels@kreme.com) From: "@lbutlr" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Suggestion for release names? Message-Id: Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2021 13:34:30 -0700 To: FreeBSD X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3654.60.0.2.21) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4DWD1h1vqfz3nYr X-Spamd-Bar: / Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of kremels@kreme.com designates 65.121.55.42 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=kremels@kreme.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-0.40 / 15.00]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RBL_DBL_DONT_QUERY_IPS(0.00)[65.121.55.42:from]; MISSING_MIME_VERSION(2.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[kreme.com]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; SPAMHAUS_ZRD(0.00)[65.121.55.42:from:127.0.2.255]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; RCVD_COUNT_ZERO(0.00)[0]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:209, ipnet:65.112.0.0/12, country:US]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[questions]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW(-0.10)[65.121.55.42:from] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Feb 2021 20:34:33 -0000 I know the subject of user confusion on STABLE and RELEASE has come up = in the past, but I found out that releng is also confusing as I was = recently talking to someone who only ran releng versions of freebsd = because he thought that was an English only version of Release. I know this is probably futile and there's little reason to change, but = I think all three animus could be better. STABLE -> "PreRelease" or "Candidate" (although RC is already used, so = many not that) RELEASE -> "" or "Production" or=20 Releng -> Development I'm not proposing the these are the names that should be picked, but I = think names could be picked that make it clearer that RELEASE is the = 'real' version for most everyone and not stable and spells out more = clearly what releng is. --=20 Hello Diane, I'm Bucky Goldstein