From owner-freebsd-hackers Tue Feb 6 9: 6:19 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (flutter.freebsd.dk [212.242.40.147]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08FC937B401 for ; Tue, 6 Feb 2001 09:06:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from critter (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by critter.freebsd.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f16Gv7B35547; Tue, 6 Feb 2001 17:57:07 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) To: Charles Randall Cc: "'Matt Dillon'" , Dan Phoenix , Alfred Perlstein , Jos Backus , freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: soft updates and qmail (RE: qmail IO problems) In-Reply-To: Your message of "Tue, 06 Feb 2001 09:51:59 MST." <5FE9B713CCCDD311A03400508B8B3013054E3F5D@bdr-xcln.is.matchlogic.com> Date: Tue, 06 Feb 2001 17:57:07 +0100 Message-ID: <35545.981478627@critter> From: Poul-Henning Kamp Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message <5FE9B713CCCDD311A03400508B8B3013054E3F5D@bdr-xcln.is.matchlogic.com>, Charles Randall writes: >The qmail FAQ specifically recommends against soft updates for the mail >queue. > >http://cr.yp.to/qmail/faq/reliability.html#filesystems > >Is this incorrect? > It seems to indicate that qmail doesn't use fsync(2) as much as it should do. If that is true, then yes, softupdates would mean that a lot of things which qmail (mistakenly) think has been written are in fact not on the disk. -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 phk@FreeBSD.ORG | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message