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Date:      Thu, 27 May 2004 14:51:44 -1000
From:      "Daniel O'Connor" <doconnor@gsoft.com.au>
To:        Robert Watson <rwatson@freebsd.org>
Cc:        David Magda <dmagda@ee.ryerson.ca>
Subject:   Re: how to interpret crash?
Message-ID:  <1085705504.977.118.camel@inchoate.localdomain>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.NEB.3.96L.1040527194447.74482A-100000@fledge.watson.org>
References:  <Pine.NEB.3.96L.1040527194447.74482A-100000@fledge.watson.org>

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On Thu, 2004-05-27 at 13:55, Robert Watson wrote:
> I don't debate your basic point that on a stable system, you're least
> likely to find the symbols when you most need them, as the system will ru=
n
> fine for a long time and then run into some edge case, unusual hardware
> failure mode, or whatever, and given that it's been stable for years, you
> will find yourself with little debugging recourse.  That's where tricks
> like using nm to track down the symbols, turning on dumps by default,
> compiling with the necessary DDB bits to generate a stack trace, etc, can
> come in quite handy.

I think turning on dumps by default is a good habit for sys admins to
get into :)

If the system dies and cores then you can rebuild your kernel with
debugging symbols and see where it died. At least that's _supposed_ to
work from what I've heard :)

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