From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 10 00:00:21 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3DB016A41C for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 00:00:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from v.velox@vvelox.net) Received: from S4.cableone.net (smtp4.cableone.net [24.116.0.230]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87BCA43D4C for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 00:00:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from v.velox@vvelox.net) Received: from vixen42.local.lan (unverified [24.119.122.41]) by S4.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S4) with ESMTP id 22323131 for multiple; Thu, 09 Jun 2005 17:22:22 -0700 Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2005 19:00:57 -0500 From: Vulpes Velox To: Freddie Cash Message-ID: <20050609190057.5ab76960@vixen42.local.lan> In-Reply-To: <200506091257.11988.fcash-ml@sd73.bc.ca> References: <20050608212440.EDE1520F01@krell.webweaver.net> <200506091126.57072.fcash-ml@sd73.bc.ca> <86psuvxqma.fsf@xps.des.no> <200506091257.11988.fcash-ml@sd73.bc.ca> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 1.9.11 (GTK+ 2.6.7; i386-portbld-freebsd5.4) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 21, in=35, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.119.122.41 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Cc: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: apple moving to x86 X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 00:00:22 -0000 On Thu, 9 Jun 2005 12:57:11 -0700 Freddie Cash wrote: > On June 9, 2005 12:43 pm, you wrote: > > Freddie Cash writes: > > > If they went with AMD processors, then they would have to either > > > build or find someone to build a chipset. > > > FYI, AMD makes chipsets. > > Yes, and some nices ones at that, especially on the server side > (our new dual-Opteron boards use AMD 8xxx chipsets). But they > don't make motherboards, they don't make audio/video chipsets, they > don't make ethernet chips, and they don't sell everything all > nicely packaged up as a single "platform". > > I'm not saying that's definitely why Apple went with Intel. But it > does make sense, if you think about it for a bit. Going with Intel > gives Intel a place to show off their "complete platform > solutions", and gives Apple a single configuration to code for. > Going with AMD would require too much work on Apple's part to get > everything working together, and would be a pain to certify the > hardware configurations as "Designed for Apple". Just did a quick search and it looks like AMD does make some ethernet hardware. But video and and audio would be a problem. > This way, they just say that MacOS X will only run on Centrino2 > laptops, whatever the desktop equivalent of Centrino will be > called, and they're done. Intel takes care of the hard parts for > them.