From owner-freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Sat Jan 26 12:35:32 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39B2F14C1F80 for ; Sat, 26 Jan 2019 12:35:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter@rulingia.com) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (mailman.ysv.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::50:5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5CE58086A for ; Sat, 26 Jan 2019 12:35:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter@rulingia.com) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id 79C1B14C1F7F; Sat, 26 Jan 2019 12:35:31 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: arch@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66FF814C1F7E for ; Sat, 26 Jan 2019 12:35:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter@rulingia.com) Received: from vtr.rulingia.com (vtr.rulingia.com [IPv6:2001:19f0:5801:ebe:5400:1ff:fe53:30fd]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "vtr.rulingia.com", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5354980867; Sat, 26 Jan 2019 12:35:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter@rulingia.com) Received: from server.rulingia.com (ppp59-167-167-3.static.internode.on.net [59.167.167.3]) by vtr.rulingia.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id x0QCZIcf068421 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=OK); Sat, 26 Jan 2019 23:35:25 +1100 (AEDT) (envelope-from peter@rulingia.com) X-Bogosity: Ham, spamicity=0.000000 Received: from server.rulingia.com (localhost.rulingia.com [127.0.0.1]) by server.rulingia.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id x0QCZD5V099696 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Sat, 26 Jan 2019 23:35:13 +1100 (AEDT) (envelope-from peter@server.rulingia.com) Received: (from peter@localhost) by server.rulingia.com (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) id x0QCZDCX099695; Sat, 26 Jan 2019 23:35:13 +1100 (AEDT) (envelope-from peter) Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2019 23:35:13 +1100 From: Peter Jeremy To: Baptiste Daroussin Cc: arch@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Importing mksh in base Message-ID: <20190126123513.GA27717@server.rulingia.com> References: <20190125165751.kpcjjncmf7j7maxd@ivaldir.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="OXfL5xGRrasGEqWY" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20190125165751.kpcjjncmf7j7maxd@ivaldir.net> X-PGP-Key: http://www.rulingia.com/keys/peter.pgp User-Agent: Mutt/1.11.1 (2018-12-01) X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2019 12:35:32 -0000 --OXfL5xGRrasGEqWY Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 2019-Jan-25 17:57:51 +0100, Baptiste Daroussin wrote: >I would like to import mksh in base, https://www.mirbsd.org/mksh.htm What are mksh's advantages/disadvantages compared with the existing /bin/sh. Personally, I don't see the point of a 3rd shell in the base system. >And make it the default root shell (not necessary in one step) Whilst I prefer /bin/sh to /bin/csh as root's shell, changing the default would be a significant POLA violation. My suggestion (as has been made elsewhere) is to make the choice of root shell an install option. --=20 Peter Jeremy --OXfL5xGRrasGEqWY Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQKTBAEBCgB9FiEE7rKYbDBnHnTmXCJ+FqWXoOSiCzQFAlxMVAFfFIAAAAAALgAo aXNzdWVyLWZwckBub3RhdGlvbnMub3BlbnBncC5maWZ0aGhvcnNlbWFuLm5ldEVF QjI5ODZDMzA2NzFFNzRFNjVDMjI3RTE2QTU5N0EwRTRBMjBCMzQACgkQFqWXoOSi CzSPshAAhSb9xs6qs283yo7xDjz8Ba/6aV/wdVNeXf9ytf1wFxJRKhjg1d7PwuKH 6mhCpEANSZUcuJGQGP1p2CsDDomaivqJjt7YYNOrIpDxPn9exycjoj6/8gyrEPoq KmcesI76fq2h8e8MKOfw4K4ODUeRX3P328YreRawcaHQCAEaHfBfxWugk1jlENSb f0mNh6L6BXrJnRFHkS3A9u02uO8736C7KaDIvMX6NCuVVFRtWCKuWm/Hivyl+gBx xQ6SOP4dcVz7GEN7LmsUII+51H9JcNF4rPJ9YqThQEuM4wnQUV6179tMxo74ujCp LrWHj3vdJsxoj867X14iZOmBquL0rC7qEUif8Ph02F3zQZzrDX0wGQ1S1s3O4V1q 3sjtTtWk+ks5azyHUGqiz3yCSJdrANcd23dzKzIQh/JVmXGMORWalYmCo8j3AmMA ZznMq4U96fqodtyoNOc/peyOAxGO7skoWJdDBtyfp2MQWHMM0Cpnu0m/6gkeiFQI nvKSGURQoMThmYojUmCjRItEgxOFPWoXulrFC5C5GOOh3PSkrKJOrTp0BigRCULx y+0xoqUyatlnkq7K+Zf8JgFTnEslngulhZo/X5XgJ7jYozCTgfuWvIwWfzScyH8C uaWRg9yAyis6XqO8KrMG4avRbBQFQOxwT1JJ9lb5DjUNGC7oM7k= =11dL -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --OXfL5xGRrasGEqWY--