From owner-svn-src-all@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 13 03:32:50 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: svn-src-all@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 739EB12F; Sun, 13 Jan 2013 03:32:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from adrian.chadd@gmail.com) Received: from mail-we0-f174.google.com (mail-we0-f174.google.com [74.125.82.174]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48E8C637; Sun, 13 Jan 2013 03:32:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-we0-f174.google.com with SMTP id x10so1492768wey.5 for ; Sat, 12 Jan 2013 19:32:48 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=lCBAz13WFsabfAqfXtgIO0i8yXz6sLJj3nK1o66fi34=; b=IC+369ljYjOVdEBVnVC57A9Hc5uNgUWhao2zo2bF23eCXHo6vTdr2GffT/IFPLkbX+ t8qFnwj3+TM3pYOh8XZZFU9rwaSefR7/YbvqGxHdQlboe2Fl57qyZEz5FrcPAg96EjEr Ucb6nZDdVLJBhoQxhEMRt/A3HFefkMFZnXc8b/PlYArqzGrll1TKg6HGfrALX30PLV1U K1i5e4DSoDjVjJd2z5wFg5wcLGqnAMvsVCdN7KK+R8yO5ODPLk9tTjgbkTYBpLkRdjwQ qb4PErzAVRl0nf8A0yx2dp9szCfKgTb068VRUVduULfiVxLvLlhG3zCc9QpJkiTUhqii WTcA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.180.33.44 with SMTP id o12mr6249141wii.28.1358047968150; Sat, 12 Jan 2013 19:32:48 -0800 (PST) Sender: adrian.chadd@gmail.com Received: by 10.217.57.9 with HTTP; Sat, 12 Jan 2013 19:32:48 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <50F1BD69.4060104@mu.org> References: <201211272119.qARLJxXV061083@svn.freebsd.org> <50C1BC90.90106@freebsd.org> <50C25A27.4060007@bluezbox.com> <50C26331.6030504@freebsd.org> <50C26AE9.4020600@bluezbox.com> <50C3A3D3.9000804@freebsd.org> <50C3AF72.4010902@rice.edu> <330405A1-312A-45A5-BB86-4969478D8BBD@bluezbox.com> <50D03E83.8060908@rice.edu> <50DD081E.8000409@bluezbox.com> <50EB1841.5030006@bluezbox.com> <50EB22D2.6090103@rice.edu> <50EB415F.8020405@freebsd.org> <50F04FE5.7010406@rice.edu> <50F1BD69.4060104@mu.org> Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2013 19:32:48 -0800 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 52LCZPns2O474AuVy9F2QvuVIaA Message-ID: Subject: Re: svn commit: r243631 - in head/sys: kern sys From: Adrian Chadd To: Alfred Perlstein Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: src-committers@freebsd.org, Andre Oppermann , Alan Cox , "Jayachandran C." , svn-src-all@freebsd.org, Oleksandr Tymoshenko , freebsd-arch@freebsd.org, svn-src-head@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: svn-src-all@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "SVN commit messages for the entire src tree \(except for " user" and " projects" \)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2013 03:32:50 -0000 On 12 January 2013 11:45, Alfred Perlstein wrote: > I'm not sure if regressing to the waterfall method of development is a good > idea at this point. > > I see a light at the end of the tunnel and we to continue to just handle > these minor corner cases as we progress. > > If we move to a model where a minor bug is grounds to completely remove > helpful code then nothing will ever get done. > Allocating 512MB worth of callwheels on a 16GB MIPS machine is a little silly, don't you think? That suggests to me that the extent of which maxfiles/maxusers/etc percolates the codebase wasn't totally understood by those who wish to change it. I'd rather see some more investigative work into outlining things that need fixing and start fixing those, rather than "just change stuff and fix whatever issues creep up." I kinda hope we all understand what we're working on in the kernel a little better than that. Adrian