From owner-freebsd-advocacy Tue Jan 28 9:55:13 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF0A537B401 for ; Tue, 28 Jan 2003 09:55:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from athena.anthonychavez.org (anthonychavez.org [166.70.15.37]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6F5243F3F for ; Tue, 28 Jan 2003 09:55:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from acc@anthonychavez.org) Received: from athena.anthonychavez.org (acc@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by athena.anthonychavez.org (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h0SHt8vw077638; Tue, 28 Jan 2003 10:55:08 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from acc@athena.anthonychavez.org) Received: (from acc@localhost) by athena.anthonychavez.org (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id h0SHt8oF077637; Tue, 28 Jan 2003 10:55:08 -0700 (MST) Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2003 10:55:08 -0700 From: "Anthony C. Chavez" To: Eric Anderson Cc: freebsd-advocacy Subject: Re: Indecisiveness and Domain registrations Message-ID: <20030128175507.GA77566@anthonychavez.org> Mail-Followup-To: Eric Anderson , freebsd-advocacy References: <3E369A04.3050802@centtech.com> <20030128165614.GA76354@anthonychavez.org> <3E36BDF9.8010906@centtech.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="liOOAslEiF7prFVr" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3E36BDF9.8010906@centtech.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i X-PGP-Key: http://www.anthonychavez.org/pubkey.asc Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --liOOAslEiF7prFVr Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Jan 28, 2003 at 11:29:29AM -0600, Eric Anderson wrote: > Anthony C. Chavez wrote: > >Now, not to discourage you, but I think you should know that hosting > >news about BSD-related advocacy events would be a natural extension for > >Daemon News as well. Having bsdevents could have the benefit of some > >good, healthy competition, so I'm not opposed to it. >=20 > bsdevents.org is not a "news" site like daemonnews. It is for all *BSD=20 > related events that are happening around the world, and would have=20 > areas to sign up to offer help for those events, and post pictures,=20 > dates and times of the upcoming events, etc. All right, I must have had my wires crossed. I stand corrected. > >However, it is my intention to put together a "to do" list for > >advocacy.daemonnews.org of our own, perhaps borrowing a lot of the > >points from the list that was submitted to freebsd-advocacy. >=20 > Sounds like you are duplicating work here, but makes no difference to=20 > me. I'm specifically talking about deadlines for the official -advocacy= =20 > group, not for daemonnews. I'm just saying the person who "leads"=20 > should also be able to set some goals. No one here is going to quit=20 > their jobs to work full time on freebsd advocacy, and having a goal is=20 > far from asking that. Okay, then, we'll just keep one "to do" list. It'd probably make things easier that way, anyway. > >I've stepped forth to lead the charge to address the lack of advocacy > >materials---something I've wanted to do for ~years~ now, which is why I > >feel I should be the one to lead it. I realize that it will be time > >consuming, and again, I cannot commit to deadlines. I can promise, > >however, that it will be done. I can't let things sit idly by and rot > >away (unless of course it's my personal Web site). :-) >=20 > This is my point exactly - you've wanted to do it for years, and never=20 > done it - no big deal, but not a good start for a leader who doesn't=20 > want any deadlines for goals. Deadlines don't mean anyone will end up=20 > dead or fired, they just help keep people focused.. Good point. One for which I don't really have a defense, except the fact that I'm now in a position where I could actually get something done. > Oh well, not for me to decide, I'll just go back to -doc work and -www wo= rk. Sure it is. It's for all of us to decide. It doesn't matter to me what direction this moves. I just thought that I'd step forward and volunteer. If you would rather be our fearless leader, Eric, then again, you're more than welcome to do it. To be honest, I'd almost rather that you did. It's just one less leadership position that I have to worry about---I already have plenty as it is! :-) If you're interested, why not subscribe to the bsd-advocacy mailing list that I've set up, and we'll discuss it there? Again, the signup URL is https://secure.daemonnews.org/mailman/listinfo/bsd-advocacy > Eric >=20 > --=20 > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > Eric Anderson Systems Administrator Centaur Technology > Attitudes are contagious, is yours worth catching? --=20 Anthony Chavez http://www.anthonychavez.org/ mailto:acc@anthonychavez.org jabber:acc@jabber.anthonychavez.org --liOOAslEiF7prFVr Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE+NsP7bZTbIaRBRXERAl1pAJwPT1wtOAWTZlRiyL3xE00Ia7wt7gCfZ4lv wzW7OYJlajq7YowdGOzPOaU= =E0wF -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --liOOAslEiF7prFVr-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message