From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Fri Jun 3 16:33:19 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9AC81B68ABF for ; Fri, 3 Jun 2016 16:33:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rde@tavi.co.uk) Received: from kipling.tavi.co.uk (kipling.tavi.co.uk [81.187.145.130]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F2DA1049 for ; Fri, 3 Jun 2016 16:33:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rde@tavi.co.uk) Received: from raksha.tavi.co.uk (raksha.tavi.co.uk [81.187.145.139]) by kipling.tavi.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58D399CC45 for ; Fri, 3 Jun 2016 17:23:13 +0100 (BST) Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2016 17:23:13 +0100 From: Bob Eager To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: old ports/packages Message-ID: <20160603172313.3b2353b0@raksha.tavi.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <9D785F08-AB0B-4324-B1B3-286D90AF9BF7@lastsummer.de> References: <03cc4012-026e-c007-09e1-ee45524f1b95@elischer.org> <1FAFDF989841D03604BB448B@atuin.in.mat.cc> <7b8d22c6-1fed-d517-9f89-693b88dfc358@freebsd.org> <20160504070341.GV740@mail0.byshenk.net> <3dfd6fea-da32-b922-65d1-f64b8e113112@toco-domains.de> <6e340f95-6d10-4991-0cd6-95d336e2f044@gjunka.com> <3e55c7d8-801c-a2b3-e92e-9945e896142b@toco-domains.de> <5809f808-8b16-93ed-5351-828a7d68eb2b@unsane.co.uk> <574ED144.1050603@quip.cz> <9D785F08-AB0B-4324-B1B3-286D90AF9BF7@lastsummer.de> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.12.0 (GTK+ 2.24.28; i386-portbld-freebsd10.1) Face: 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==== MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 03 Jun 2016 16:33:19 -0000 On Fri, 3 Jun 2016 17:17:57 +0200 Franco Fichtner wrote: > The initial release was 10.0, which was phased out after a > year, leaving us no choice but to go 10.1 just two months > after our initial release in order to receive official security > updates. Worst case it takes a few months to adapt to the > major transition so that's 12 months minus X months of internal > engineering, depending on your staff expertise. In that case > we started in 2014, took us 4 months, that's 6 months including > the time 10.0 was officially available, so 6 months left for > support, when you actually start adapting to 10 as soon as it > comes out. For many that's a luxury not going to happen. One > can blame anyone for starting late, but it's not going to solve > the real world problem. > > 10.1 went really well. When 10.2 happened for us in January > 2016, however, we've already went testing 3 months before and > had a number of issues that were not being addressed upstream > for a longer amount of time: Why not just use odd numbered releases? That's what I do. They have a longer support cycle.