From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jan 8 8: 2:38 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from cepheus.azstarnet.com (cepheus.azstarnet.com [169.197.56.195]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF2EB14F06 for ; Sat, 8 Jan 2000 08:02:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sbcorey@azstarnet.com) Received: from azstarnet.com (dialup16ip044.tus.azstarnet.com [169.197.37.172]) by cepheus.azstarnet.com (8.9.3+blt.Beta0/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA06148; Sat, 8 Jan 2000 09:02:30 -0700 (MST) X-Sent-via: StarNet http://www.azstarnet.com/ Message-ID: <38775FA5.9082F88C@azstarnet.com> Date: Sat, 08 Jan 2000 09:02:45 -0700 From: Scott Corey X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 3.4-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: peter kok Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: http://www.apple.com/macosx/server/ References: <20000108070237.13750.qmail@hotmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG peter kok wrote: > > Hello > > I browsed apple web site: > http://www.apple.com/macosx/server/ > > They mentioned: > > The Mach 2.5 microkernel > and a full BSD 4.4 > environment implement > most of the Portable > Operating System Interface > > ------- > ls it same as freebsd? > > Thank you > > regards > Peter Kok Apple is releasing some portion of the OS as Open Source, under the name Darwin. People are working at turning it into a whole Open Source OS. It's nice, but they're going about it the NeXT way, i.e. on top of the Mach microkernel. Anyone whose used MkLinux can tell you that this kills performance, unless the OS on top is set up as multiple servers (which MkLinux is not, but Apple's Darwin might be). Needless to say, Monolithic Linux and BSD kernels on Apple hardware will be faster for quite a while, unless Apple does some serious performance tuning, which they don't tend to do - according to John Carmack on the GLX lists, they use only about half the capabilities of their 3D hardware. Most of their machines still can't fill a 100Mbit/s ethernet connection. They're probably more focused right now on backwards compatiblility - its nice to be able to run 15 year old binaries from a different processor architecture, but... If you are interested in apple's 'open source' projects, go to: http://www.publicsource.apple.com/ For specifs on Darwin, check out: http://www.publicsource.apple.com/projects/darwin/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message