From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Mar 16 11:02:49 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3F582628D5 for ; Mon, 16 Mar 2020 11:02:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vas@sibptus.ru) Received: from admin.sibptus.ru (admin.sibptus.ru [IPv6:2001:19f0:5001:21dc::10]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 48gtgX4Bdpz3D9h for ; Mon, 16 Mar 2020 11:02:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vas@sibptus.ru) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=sibptus.ru; s=20181118; h=In-Reply-To:Message-ID:Subject:To:From:Date; bh=N7T0W+4Ak6dBMdJ6GgHsOOCNe+HJrPnJpFb3G4b4OVs=; b=g1h2XD2xP0LTBPRAfNUk0JsoLO Vb9AoIGcwEDtmYe5rG+9LZb/gGGxcv2yc9rXFrsiQ5UZ1ZFCMO54dLhXNISiNkzBrhKYaCD4fdBZr YxbFCKzVzdBgCh0n1HH4v33p3xnwD7YhEUn+r7JjVG7rBWGOO2Ykk0OkvrLvVs3UMYOQ=; Received: from vas by admin.sibptus.ru with local (Exim 4.93.0.4 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1jDnWA-000P0u-UO for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 16 Mar 2020 18:02:46 +0700 Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2020 18:02:46 +0700 From: Victor Sudakov To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Technological advantages over Linux Message-ID: <20200316110246.GB95052@admin.sibptus.ru> References: <20200215141238.GY1879@aurora.gregv.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="KFztAG8eRSV9hGtP" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20200215141238.GY1879@aurora.gregv.net> X-PGP-Key: http://admin.sibptus.ru/~vas/ X-PGP-Fingerprint: 10E3 1171 1273 E007 C2E9 3532 0DA4 F259 9B5E C634 X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 48gtgX4Bdpz3D9h X-Spamd-Bar: -------- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=sibptus.ru header.s=20181118 header.b=g1h2XD2x; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=sibptus.ru; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of vas@sibptus.ru designates 2001:19f0:5001:21dc::10 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=vas@sibptus.ru X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-8.45 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.99)[-0.991,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[sibptus.ru:s=20181118]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx:c]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.20)[multipart/signed,text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; IP_SCORE(-3.35)[ip: (-9.89), ipnet: 2001:19f0:5000::/38(-4.94), asn: 20473(-1.89), country: US(-0.05)]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[sibptus.ru:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[sibptus.ru,none]; SIGNED_PGP(-2.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:20473, ipnet:2001:19f0:5000::/38, country:US]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2020 11:02:50 -0000 --KFztAG8eRSV9hGtP Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Greg Veldman wrote: >=20 > The insanity of systemd is a large part of what convinced me > to migrate all my personal machines from GNU/Linux to FreeBSD > a couple of years ago. I've just come across two related things which may convince me to migrate some machines from FreeBSD to Debian. 1. On Debian, you can run several instances of php-fpm with different PHP versions in them. 2. On Debian, you can install and run several versions of PostgreSQL simultaneously thanks to the pg_createcluster/pg_lsclusters/... infrastructure. All that from standard packages, without manual compiling and tweaking, jails etc, with minimal effort. Not that FreeBSD could not do that, it just does not do that. Especially PHP verions are a great PITA. --=20 Victor Sudakov, VAS4-RIPE, VAS47-RIPN 2:5005/49@fidonet http://vas.tomsk.ru/ --KFztAG8eRSV9hGtP Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJeb1zWAAoJEA2k8lmbXsY06pQIAJjIwKMfb9/OI+V7gXM6FLlk joT0mERPsZoTIzk7k1e79X+dre1SgLUL/XNHWAUEwQAJpycYz4FC0UnK5fdUyHyT g1M0WrfLTw/pcWih2vyczlMs6kV4W3eHf3R7thznF+ArgEXdoyYJVTfoWw0zI3kj 6uOMw93/BsO+VJEcdNgF3yh3JjgRGtGNQPbizrAoJYyvwx+2zoTVomAiu9Q+IRe9 JyChpyZZNCr93b/kFRPck4ruC4zAdwSL7Cc13eSDDwuv0iThXfc9EYOCupuk7Nsy cncJrChx8r73q60CyL77BuRcOLqP86WAnrWHs/a1cKuR3jvUy9qnszwPFqDmoOw= =wrdA -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --KFztAG8eRSV9hGtP--