From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 20 13:59:21 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3767C16A4CE for ; Thu, 20 Jan 2005 13:59:21 +0000 (GMT) Received: from t-x.dignus.nl (t-x.dignus.nl [83.219.88.50]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1A8743D2F for ; Thu, 20 Jan 2005 13:59:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from colin@kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl) Received: from localhost (localhost.dignus.nl [127.0.0.1]) by t-x.dignus.nl (Safehouse) with ESMTP id 3CB702841C; Thu, 20 Jan 2005 14:59:36 +0100 (CET) Received: from kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl (cjr-home [62.251.72.148]) by t-x.dignus.nl (Safehouse) with ESMTP id 5E57B28419; Thu, 20 Jan 2005 14:59:31 +0100 (CET) Received: from kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl (localhost.kozy-kabin.nl [127.0.0.1]) by kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DB4B61CE; Thu, 20 Jan 2005 14:59:14 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (colin@localhost)j0KDxDAZ002952; Thu, 20 Jan 2005 14:59:13 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from colin@kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl) Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2005 14:59:13 +0100 From: "Colin J. Raven" To: Erik Norgaard In-Reply-To: <41EFB860.1030606@locolomo.org> Message-ID: <20050120145658.E2927@kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl> References: <200501200929.j0K9TXbl022106@mp.cs.niu.edu> <41EF92A2.30506@incubus.de> <20050120130838.K768@kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl> <41EFB860.1030606@locolomo.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by RemSPAMd at ph230.plushosting.nl cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD I LOVE YOU X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2005 13:59:21 -0000 On Jan 20 at 14:55, Erik Norgaard launched this into the bitstream: > Colin J. Raven wrote: > >> Eh? Surely you don't meant trashed - physically annihilated? >> Phew! I believe in radical solutions certainly, but..umm..isn't that going >> just a little bit too far? :-) >> I'm assuming you mean destructively formatted... > > You always have to classify the data and take appropriate measures, as well > as consider the costs of various methods of data destruction. > > It may actually be cheaper to melt the disks and by new ones rather than > do a destructive format. Remember, if you have no trust relation with the > ones who receive the pc's then the trusted employee will most likely be one > from your organization and high paid. > > It has happened that companies have shipped of a load of used pc's for > reuse in poor countries and then sensitive data has reappeared where it > shouldn't, causing more than just embarasment to the original owner. > > If a harddisk contains sensitive information such as personal infor- > mation, information about your security infrastructure (passwords), or other, > then I would prefer a complete meltdown of the disk and recycle it as scrap > metal. I always thought that formatting/fdisk'ing twice completely erased *permanently* whatever had been on the disc. You make an interesting case that previously I never thought about in any detail. Thanks for real info from the field, it's definitely food for thought! Regards, -Colin -- Colin J. Raven FreeBSD 5.3-RELEASE - http://www.FreeBSD.org - There can be only One Thu Jan 20 14:59:00 CET 2005 2:59PM up 3:49, 2 users, load averages: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00