From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jul 24 14:51:29 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B38437B400 for ; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 14:51:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.eskimo.com (mx1.eskimo.com [204.122.16.48]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EA5743E86 for ; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 14:51:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ripper@eskimo.com) Received: from eskimo.com (ripper@eskimo.com [204.122.16.13]) by mx1.eskimo.com (8.9.1a/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA06660; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 14:51:20 -0700 Received: (from ripper@localhost) by eskimo.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1) id OAA23500; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 14:51:20 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2002 14:51:20 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200207242151.OAA23500@eskimo.com> From: Ross Lippert To: keramida@ceid.upatras.gr Cc: bts@babbleon.org, scottro@nyc.rr.com, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org In-reply-to: <20020724204404.GA2526@hades.hell.gr> (message from Giorgos Keramidas on Wed, 24 Jul 2002 23:44:05 +0300) Subject: Re: /usr/share/examples Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Giorgos Keramidas said: >Is this really necessary? I mean, I would expect the share/examples >files to still be there. I don't have a 4.6-RELEASE CD-ROM image >handy, but I mounted my 4.4-RELEASE disk under /cdrom and see what I >found out: With the 4.6-1 CD mounted under /cdrom: ripper@laverne 507$ cat bin.[a-z][a-z] | tar ztvf - | grep share/examples | grep ppp.conf ripper@laverne 508$ ripper@laverne 509$ cat bin.[a-z][a-z] | tar ztvf - | grep share/examples | grep ppp drwxr-xr-x root/wheel 0 Jun 11 00:17 2002 usr/share/examples/isdn/i4brunppp/ drwxr-xr-x root/wheel 0 Jun 11 00:17 2002 usr/share/examples/ppp/ drwxr-xr-x root/wheel 0 Jun 11 00:17 2002 usr/share/examples/pppd/ ripper@laverne 510$ Also, if I mount 4.6-2 the live file system and look in share/examples it is likewise underpopulated. Without the examples files, the handbook's instructions for setting up ppp cannot be followed. The ppp-primer currently presents a sample file which is bad too. I made a pr on this recently when I discovered it. I volunteer to make the patch to the ppp-primer if there isn't a designated maintainer already tasked with this. This situation pretty much prevents someone new to FreeBSD from getting ppp working if they use this release. I believe that, in theory, every release should be self-contained enough that someone can install it and get on the internet to find help for anything else. Is that too much to want? -r To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message