From owner-freebsd-current Tue Oct 2 8:34:39 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from ns.yogotech.com (ns.yogotech.com [206.127.123.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D097737B40B for ; Tue, 2 Oct 2001 08:34:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nomad.yogotech.com (nomad.yogotech.com [206.127.123.131]) by ns.yogotech.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA09859; Tue, 2 Oct 2001 09:34:19 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from nate@nomad.yogotech.com) Received: (from nate@localhost) by nomad.yogotech.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA21065; Tue, 2 Oct 2001 09:34:18 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from nate) From: Nate Williams MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15289.56953.709463.415400@nomad.yogotech.com> Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2001 09:34:17 -0600 To: Julian Elischer Cc: "Daniel O'Connor" , Lyndon Nerenberg , current@FreeBSD.ORG, Garrett Wollman Subject: Re: uucp user shell and home directory In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: VM 6.95 under 21.1 (patch 12) "Channel Islands" XEmacs Lucid Reply-To: nate@yogotech.com (Nate Williams) Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > POP and IMAP (I think) will lose all the envelope information, You've been listening to Terry too long. It's certainly not the case, although I've decided to quit arguing with Terry, since it's an excercise in futility. No matter what you say, he'll either change the subject or simply overwhelm you with useless/unrelated material until you simply abandon any hope of trying to give out useful information. > SMTP is a PUSH operation.. > > so for a PULL operation that can handle envelope information (e.g. BCC) > you need UUCP See above. fetchmail + pop works fine. I've been get all of my envelope information, and there is no worries. For 'fetching' email, fetchmail is a very good solution. However, there is also another fairly trivial solution that works well, *IF* you have a static IP address. ETRN also is a good 'fetch' mechanism, if your ISP sets up MX records for you. When you come up, you simply telnet into your ISP's mail server, then type 'ETRN foobar.com', and it'll dump all your email to the IP address of your static configuration. However, this won't work for roving users. Nate > > On Tue, 2 Oct 2001, Daniel O'Connor wrote: > > > > > On 01-Oct-2001 Lyndon Nerenberg wrote: > > > UUCP still gets used. It's one of the few sane ways to handle email in > > > a laptop environment when you're always connecting through different > > > dialups/ISPs. It has mostly fallen out of favour due to ignorance and > > > FUD. Which is a shame, as it can still be a useful tool in certain > > > situations. > > > > I think a more 'modern' solution is POP or IMAP over SSH, you can also feed > > SMTP over an SSH tunnel too (This is what I use). > > > > --- > > Daniel O'Connor software and network engineer > > for Genesis Software - http://www.gsoft.com.au > > "The nice thing about standards is that there > > are so many of them to choose from." > > -- Andrew Tanenbaum > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message