From owner-freebsd-fs@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 22 19:22:58 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-fs@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-fs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E6A416A48F for ; Tue, 22 May 2007 19:22:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from elvis.mu.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D86C13C480 for ; Tue, 22 May 2007 19:22:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by elvis.mu.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0AB41A4D84; Tue, 22 May 2007 12:23:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 3916B521E7; Tue, 22 May 2007 15:22:57 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 22 May 2007 15:22:57 -0400 From: Kris Kennaway To: Ollivier Robert Message-ID: <20070522192257.GA77895@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <475187.33232.qm@web63006.mail.re1.yahoo.com> <86r6p9xf2c.fsf@dwp.des.no> <20070522131107.GA73155@keltia.freenix.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20070522131107.GA73155@keltia.freenix.fr> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: freebsd-fs@freebsd.org Subject: Re: VERY frustrated with FreeBSD/UFS stability - please help or comment... X-BeenThere: freebsd-fs@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Filesystems List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 May 2007 19:22:58 -0000 On Tue, May 22, 2007 at 03:11:08PM +0200, Ollivier Robert wrote: > According to Dag-Erling Sm?rgrav: > > client2% rsync --archive --delete /vol server:/backup/client2 > > server% for vol in /backup/* ; do mksnap_ffs $vol $vol/.snap/`date` ; done > > My experience with the sysutils/freebsd-snapshot, which enable automatic > snapshot creation (? la NetApp) is that after a few created snapshots, the > whole system just locks up. This was in 6.0-6.1 days, maybe 6.2 has > improved but they seem very fragile :( It is fair to say that snapshots were not designed to be used in this way and have manifested lots of tricky bugs under different usage conditions. People like Kostik and Tor have fixed lots of them over the course of 6.x, but of course there may be others. > I am eagerly waiting for ZFS. ZFS snapshots are certainly a thing of beauty. Kris