From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 30 04:46:43 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 81D5352E; Tue, 30 Dec 2014 04:46:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-wg0-x22b.google.com (mail-wg0-x22b.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c00::22b]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 166EB6628E; Tue, 30 Dec 2014 04:46:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-wg0-f43.google.com with SMTP id k14so2308053wgh.16; Mon, 29 Dec 2014 20:46:41 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=zS/+M6/Vy+WDWFWvSaN2qphCUxlk+WkxvM9dIjV41tk=; b=zUmp3edj3MQYwUzgDDFtTe9VhVKCftpQeKyCrECZVwXIPrqIGkpdvMHw9T9fA1vE6O IDsUl6CofQRTvBKRXrtHoRlmQErkiyFE8BS18cmrewfdou6TDdHAdzmQBNnA2wq4/Qps CNwj2H632ojjw/IcNnwmJsGdNXfrZ5SZV92noURDbKOP16ZkeAJVGgoDqf7U7mutzky1 gsGtv1WvytPDQTBf0OYgOjm1ECOehh+2n/51A/ikmEsZ2OD+NGDBU2b8fDUAykLD7MbX C4vyFDmzhh9CZX6EMOQ/X5Q8I/dgfwEIydHfYtDXMcLGckBXtd//uvxAX0pVjlzdPTVi P/pA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.180.107.136 with SMTP id hc8mr103229237wib.32.1419914801567; Mon, 29 Dec 2014 20:46:41 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.216.106.136 with HTTP; Mon, 29 Dec 2014 20:46:41 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <54a1ec2a.853c460a.1d8a.2b34SMTPIN_ADDED_MISSING@mx.google.com> References: <54a1ec2a.853c460a.1d8a.2b34SMTPIN_ADDED_MISSING@mx.google.com> Date: Mon, 29 Dec 2014 23:46:41 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: FreeBSD BSD License 3 -> 2 Clause History From: grarpamp To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Cc: imp@freebsd.org, phk@freebsd.org, Theo de Raadt X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2014 04:46:43 -0000 On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 7:04 PM, Theo de Raadt wrote: > Reason you can't find any history about it in FreeBSD is > because the 2 term initiative did not occur at FreeBSD. > > Nor does the 2-term licence have anything to do with FreeBSD, > as a careful review of their tree will show. It is a complete > muddle. > ... > FreeBSD simply started picking up pieces of it because of code which > arrived from other places, and perhaps after that it became more of a > trend. The change in question, from 3 to 2 clause, is here in Dec 1999: https://svnweb.freebsd.org/base/head/COPYRIGHT?r1=50978&r2=124033 Next step is to ask imp/phk, and search the FreeBSD lists around that time for context as to why. > The 2-term conversion already started in NetBSD land, I do not recall > which developer it was that started not asserting it on his own. But > it became even more of a pressure during the licence audit in OpenBSD. > Eventually durig that audit it became easier to convince a few > stragglers to consider use of the well understood original ISC > (without the "and/or" balony), and then that became the major trend > here in OpenBSD. By suggesting that, it stops confusing chatter, and > all projects can incorporate our code for any purpose. That's the > goal. Yes, OpenBSD is more rigorous regarding conformance of, and conforming, their tree to a single, license. And that is of value. > Please do not confuse the change from 4-term to 3-term It is presumed everyone is aware of the UCB/Hoskins advertising clause formal removal of Jul 1999. http://directory.fsf.org/wiki/License:BSD_4Clause 4-clause / original http://directory.fsf.org/wiki/License:BSD_3Clause 3-clause / modified / revised / new > 3-term to 2-term As is the subject herein. http://directory.fsf.org/wiki/License:FreeBSD 2-clause / freebsd / simplified > the 2-term to ISC. http://directory.fsf.org/wiki/License:ISC isc This is really more of a comparative regarding the 'and/or' bit. http://www.gnu.org/licenses/licenses.html http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/bsd.html http://opensource.org/licenses/ http://gitweb.dragonflybsd.org/dragonfly.git/blob/HEAD:/COPYRIGHT http://netbsd.org/about/redistribution.html http://www.openbsd.org/policy.html openbsd > Very easy for people to muddle up history. Having this thread out there 15ys later as a refresh would be good then. (The original thread of the same subject was posted a couple weeks ago to freebsd-questions.)