From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 13 18:14:36 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9779C16A41F; Sun, 13 Nov 2005 18:14:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lofi@freebsd.org) Received: from mail-in-02.arcor-online.net (mail-in-02.arcor-online.net [151.189.21.42]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1EF443D45; Sun, 13 Nov 2005 18:14:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lofi@freebsd.org) Received: from mail-in-08-z2.arcor-online.net (mail-in-08-z2.arcor-online.net [151.189.8.20]) by mail-in-02.arcor-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A15D07D0FA; Sun, 13 Nov 2005 19:14:34 +0100 (CET) Received: from mail-in-07.arcor-online.net (mail-in-07.arcor-online.net [151.189.21.47]) by mail-in-08-z2.arcor-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DB4F28452; Sun, 13 Nov 2005 19:14:34 +0100 (CET) Received: from lofi.dyndns.org (dslb-084-061-133-171.pools.arcor-ip.net [84.61.133.171]) by mail-in-07.arcor-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBFC881641; Sun, 13 Nov 2005 19:14:33 +0100 (CET) Received: from kiste.my.domain (root@kiste.my.domain [192.168.8.4]) by lofi.dyndns.org (8.13.4/8.13.3) with ESMTP id jADIEUAl088649 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sun, 13 Nov 2005 19:14:31 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from lofi@freebsd.org) Received: from kiste.my.domain (lofi@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by kiste.my.domain (8.13.4/8.13.1) with ESMTP id jADIETSi020655; Sun, 13 Nov 2005 19:14:29 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from lofi@freebsd.org) Received: from localhost (localhost [[UNIX: localhost]]) by kiste.my.domain (8.13.4/8.13.1/Submit) id jADIEStp020654; Sun, 13 Nov 2005 19:14:28 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from lofi@freebsd.org) X-Authentication-Warning: kiste.my.domain: lofi set sender to lofi@freebsd.org using -f From: Michael Nottebrock To: Stijn Hoop Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2005 19:14:15 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.8.3 References: <200511130038.jAD0cgLb043746@sakura.ninth-nine.com> <20051113145814.GA74866@nagual.pp.ru> <20051113151131.GG69544@pcwin002.win.tue.nl> In-Reply-To: <20051113151131.GG69544@pcwin002.win.tue.nl> X-Face: =Ym$`&q\+S2X$4`X%x%6"L4>Y,$]<":'L%c9"#7#`2tb&E&wsN31on!N\)3BD[g<=?utf-8?q?=2EjnfV=5B=0A=093=23?=>XchLK,o; >bD>c:]^; :>0>vyZ.X[,63GW`&M>}nYnr]-Fp``,[[@lJ!QL|sfW!s)=?utf-8?q?A2!*=0A=09vNkB/=7CL-?=>&QdSbQg X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new Cc: Norikatsu Shigemura , freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Integrated DEBUG related macros to WITH_DEBUG/WITHOUT_DEBUG X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2005 18:14:36 -0000 --nextPart1621382.tvmQLLBTjt Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-6" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On Sunday, 13. November 2005 16:11, Stijn Hoop wrote: > I totally agree with that; it's just that having 127 _unobviously_ > named DEBUG knobs is also totally useless. > > E.g., for audio/arts, do I need to set 'WITH_KDE_DEBUG=3Dyes' to get > debugging symbols? I don't know and I can't quickly look it up. Indeed you do and indeed you can't.=20 However, I don't consider the latter to be a real pressing problem - after= =20 all, we're talking about compiling a piece of software in a way that=20 facilitates *debugging* - it's bad enough when I (as a kde maintainer) see = no=20 other choice but to tell you, the user (when you've reported a problem - sa= y=20 a crash - to me), to recompile the whole damn thing with some switch intend= ed=20 for developers so I can figure out what the problem is. > Michael's proposal for 'WITH__DEBUG' is ultimately the way > to go. I don't deserve the credit for that idea (I don't really remember who came = up=20 with it, IIRC obrien@). ;-) =2D-=20 ,_, | Michael Nottebrock | lofi@freebsd.org (/^ ^\) | FreeBSD - The Power to Serve | http://www.freebsd.org \u/ | K Desktop Environment on FreeBSD | http://freebsd.kde.org --nextPart1621382.tvmQLLBTjt Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBDd4KEXhc68WspdLARAo5VAKCC9AppJh6Pmt/rsxl7Nzy+X5Mj9gCggTsS 0Yx+/fbTwMMt5YI+9gzH8ug= =G7RK -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart1621382.tvmQLLBTjt--