From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Tue May 23 23:57:23 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 589AAD7A31D for ; Tue, 23 May 2017 23:57:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hrs@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (unknown [127.0.1.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36F9C13C8 for ; Tue, 23 May 2017 23:57:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hrs@FreeBSD.org) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id 364A9D7A31C; Tue, 23 May 2017 23:57:23 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: current@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35B04D7A31B for ; Tue, 23 May 2017 23:57:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hrs@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mail.allbsd.org (gatekeeper.allbsd.org [IPv6:2001:2f0:104:e001::32]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.allbsd.org", Issuer "RapidSSL SHA256 CA - G3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F034613C7; Tue, 23 May 2017 23:57:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hrs@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mail-d.allbsd.org (p2251-ipbf201funabasi.chiba.ocn.ne.jp [221.187.16.251]) (authenticated bits=56) by mail.allbsd.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPSA id v4NNv80T082788 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=FAIL) (Client CN "/OU=GT07882699/OU=See+20www.rapidssl.com/resources/cps+20+28c+2915/OU=Domain+20Control+20Validated+20-+20RapidSSL+28R+29/CN=*.allbsd.org", Issuer "/C=US/O=GeoTrust+20Inc./CN=RapidSSL+20SHA256+20CA+20-+20G3"); Wed, 24 May 2017 08:57:19 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from hrs@FreeBSD.org) Received: from alph.allbsd.org (alph.allbsd.org [192.168.0.10]) by mail-d.allbsd.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id v4NNv7Qf012880 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 24 May 2017 08:57:07 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from hrs@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost (localhost [IPv6:::1]) (authenticated bits=0) by alph.allbsd.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPA id v4NNv5g3012877; Wed, 24 May 2017 08:57:07 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from hrs@FreeBSD.org) Date: Wed, 24 May 2017 08:55:56 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <20170524.085556.2040925088868124402.hrs@allbsd.org> To: mckusick@mckusick.com Cc: bapt@FreeBSD.org, current@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: The futur of the roff toolchain From: Hiroki Sato In-Reply-To: <201705232013.v4NKDhn3066014@chez.mckusick.com> References: <20170521125733.bmd4tmq6iqpsbvgl@ivaldir.net> <201705232013.v4NKDhn3066014@chez.mckusick.com> X-PGPkey-fingerprint: BDB3 443F A5DD B3D0 A530 FFD7 4F2C D3D8 2793 CF2D X-Mailer: Mew version 6.7 on Emacs 25.1 / Mule 6.0 (HANACHIRUSATO) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Multipart/Signed; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1; boundary="--Security_Multipart(Wed_May_24_08_55_56_2017_111)--" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.99 at gatekeeper.allbsd.org X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: Sender DNS name whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (mail.allbsd.org [133.31.130.32]); Wed, 24 May 2017 08:57:20 +0900 (JST) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-97.9 required=13.0 tests=CONTENT_TYPE_PRESENT, QENCPTR1,URIBL_SC2_SURBL,URIBL_XS_SURBL,USER_IN_WHITELIST autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.1 (2015-04-28) on gatekeeper.allbsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 May 2017 23:57:23 -0000 ----Security_Multipart(Wed_May_24_08_55_56_2017_111)-- Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Kirk McKusick wrote in <201705232013.v4NKDhn3066014@chez.mckusick.com>: mc> Thanks for all your work on this project. As I still use roff for mc> our book and for many of my presentations, it is a topic of interest mc> to me. That said, I am fine with roff dropping out of base as I can mc> easily enough bring it in from ports. And I am curious to try using mc> heirloom doctools on our book to see if it works. We do some pretty mc> evil things with diversions, so I can easily believe that it will mc> not work. But it would be great if it does work, because the groff mc> in base has some bugs that are annoying to work around. JFYI, I am working on porting/adjust roff macros used in D&I book to make them compatible with heirloom doctools in parallel with the translation work because heirloom doctools has better support of UTF-8 and pnon-English font set. The modified MS macro and most of other small macros worked with some minor modifications though refer(1) in heirloom lacks flexibility in style specification. -- Hiroki ----Security_Multipart(Wed_May_24_08_55_56_2017_111)-- Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1 iEYEABECAAYFAlkkzAwACgkQTyzT2CeTzy2riQCeP6Y12fcBWvEMXbxdUtsfuXRY OkYAoJBJKxkmMkSb3JnhjWdGnp1Any4F =FemV -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ----Security_Multipart(Wed_May_24_08_55_56_2017_111)----