From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Mar 14 11:31:49 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mired.org (dsl-64-192-6-133.telocity.com [64.192.6.133]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 80B8637B405 for ; Thu, 14 Mar 2002 11:31:45 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 29151 invoked by uid 100); 14 Mar 2002 19:31:38 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15504.64153.939949.16035@guru.mired.org> Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2002 13:31:37 -0600 To: Cc: FreeBSD-questions Subject: Re: X In-Reply-To: <20020314091240.GK68827@roman.mobil.cz> References: <00a701c1cb06$254e1100$0301a8c0@480mhz> <20020314091240.GK68827@roman.mobil.cz> X-Mailer: VM 6.90 under 21.1 (patch 14) "Cuyahoga Valley" XEmacs Lucid X-face: "5Mnwy%?j>IIV\)A=):rjWL~NB2aH[}Yq8Z=u~vJ`"(,&SiLvbbz2W`;h9L,Yg`+vb1>RG% *h+%X^n0EZd>TM8_IB;a8F?(Fb"lw'IgCoyM.[Lg#r\ From: "Mike Meyer" X-Delivery-Agent: TMDA/0.48 (Python 2.2 on freebsd4) Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In <20020314091240.GK68827@roman.mobil.cz>, Roman Neuhauser types: Roman, please respect the charter of the list and leave people on the Cc: list. Your message may never have gotten to Mike Stacy since you dropped him the list of recipients. > > From: "Mike Stacy" > > what would be the best desktop environment for a beginner....... > Depends. Browse the /usr/ports/x11-wm/ directory, read the pkg-descr > files, install those managers that you think you might like, and you > will eventually uninstall all but one. Personally, I keep two around. That's because some applications just don't fit well with rat-avoiding window managers. Which is what I wanted to point out. Ratpoison is designed to work like screen, and it ignores the mouse pointer, except to have a command to put it in a corner of the screen. plwm is a window manager construction kit, and includes plpwm, which is modelled after ratpoison, except it takes advantage of some of the functionality offered by plwm. If the idea of a window manager that ignores the rodent doesn't appeal to you, but you like the idea of minimalist window managers, I like lwm. Which I keep around for oddball applications that don't deal with plpwm very well. http://www.mired.org/home/mwm/ Independent WWW/Perforce/FreeBSD/Unix consultant, email for more information. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message