From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Sun Nov 11 18:55:41 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EBCA110F567 for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2018 18:55:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from allanjude@freebsd.org) Received: from mx1.scaleengine.net (mx1.scaleengine.net [209.51.186.6]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AE9138F69C for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2018 18:55:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from allanjude@freebsd.org) Received: from [10.1.1.2] (Seawolf.HML3.ScaleEngine.net [209.51.186.28]) (Authenticated sender: allanjude.freebsd@scaleengine.com) by mx1.scaleengine.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id E735B19F5A for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2018 18:55:33 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Re: Graphics open-source-friendliness, AMD Ryzen vs. Intel To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org References: <188F89D2-16A1-4483-AD38-CD346C1BBE0D.1@aspmx1.migadu.com> <1541958847.1699.1@smtp.migadu.com> From: Allan Jude Openpgp: preference=signencrypt Autocrypt: addr=allanjude@freebsd.org; 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WOW64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <1541958847.1699.1@smtp.migadu.com> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="lZlid2X2YBkuocrawNsWYyaEkl07ha2n8" X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: AE9138F69C X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-108.89 / 200.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; ALLOW_DOMAIN_WHITELIST(-100.00)[freebsd.org]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; HAS_ATTACHMENT(0.00)[]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-current@freebsd.org]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; R_SPF_SOFTFAIL(0.00)[~all]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.20)[multipart/signed,multipart/mixed,text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[freebsd.org]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: mx66.freebsd.org]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; SIGNED_PGP(-2.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(-3.68)[ip: (-9.85), ipnet: 209.51.160.0/19(-4.93), asn: 6939(-3.54), country: US(-0.09)]; ASN(0.00)[asn:6939, ipnet:209.51.160.0/19, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; TO_DOM_EQ_FROM_DOM(0.00)[] X-Rspamd-Server: mx1.freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2018 18:55:41 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --lZlid2X2YBkuocrawNsWYyaEkl07ha2n8 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="spw3jgHouFxB2agiLCchnKzeYILGS8RdR"; protected-headers="v1" From: Allan Jude To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Message-ID: Subject: Re: Graphics open-source-friendliness, AMD Ryzen vs. Intel References: <188F89D2-16A1-4483-AD38-CD346C1BBE0D.1@aspmx1.migadu.com> <1541958847.1699.1@smtp.migadu.com> In-Reply-To: <1541958847.1699.1@smtp.migadu.com> --spw3jgHouFxB2agiLCchnKzeYILGS8RdR Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 2018-11-11 12:54, Greg V wrote: >=20 >=20 > On Sun, Nov 11, 2018 at 3:42 PM, Thomas Mueller > wrote: >> I may need to buy parts for a new computer because of malfunctions on >> current motherboard and CPU (Intel Sandy Bridge dating to May 2011). >> >> Question is whether I am better off, regarding >> open-source-friendliness of graphics chips for running Xorg, with AMD >> Ryzen or the newer Intel chipsets.=C2=A0 I know to avoid NVIDIA. >=20 My FreeBSD workstation use an nVidia Quadro K1200 and it works very well under FreeBSD with the nVidia kernel driver from ports. > Both are great for open source friendliness in general. >=20 > Onboard Vega GPUs on the Ryzen APUs should work fine on FreeBSD with > kms-drm 4.16. >=20 > If you're looking for high performance though, don't get an APU, get an= > 8-core (R7 2700X/2700/1700X/1700) and a discrete GPU (Radeon RX > 550/560/570/580 depending on how much you care about graphics performan= ce). >=20 >> I am inclined to run FreeBSD-current and build Xorg from FreeBSD ports= =2E >> >> When I boot into UEFI setup, I see the CPU temperature is or quickly >> goes to 97 C and stays there. >> >> I tried replacing the thermal paste and installing a new case fan to >> replace one that had quit, but CPU temperature still shows and stays >> at 97 C. >> >> Now I have a replacement Arctic Cooler heatsink and fan on order to >> replace the original Intel heatsink and fan whose connectors were >> damaged in taking out and struggling to get back in. >> >> Currently, I boot into UEFI Setup, but after a couple minutes, the >> computer powers off and then tries to power back on, then off again a >> few seconds later, until I end the loop by turning off the power >> supply switch.=C2=A0 I can guess CPU overheating. >=20 > Yeah, a new CPU cooler should help. >=20 >> I could transplant the current hard drive (Seagate NAS 4 TB) to get a >> quicker start software-wise. >=20 > An SSD might provide a quicker start too ;) >=20 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-current-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" --=20 Allan Jude --spw3jgHouFxB2agiLCchnKzeYILGS8RdR-- --lZlid2X2YBkuocrawNsWYyaEkl07ha2n8 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; 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