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From: Daniel Tameling <tamelingdaniel@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: Remote development with neovim, tmux and SSH from macOS?
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On Wed, Feb 28, 2024 at 04:30:22PM +0000, Simon Connah wrote:
> I've just set up a FreeBSD server and was curious about the best practices for when it comes to developing on FreeBSD? I have a Mac Studio but I'm not used to neovim or tmux at all and I get the feeling that learning them is going to take some time.
> 
> What do you use for developing on FreeBSD servers? Unfortunately I can't install FreeBSD on my machine (well I can but it would be in VMware Fusion Pro).
> 
> Looking forward to hearing what other people do.
> 
> Simon.

I generally use emacs and at work I use tmux for working on remote
servers. The main reason is that I can detach from the session
shutdown my laptop and continue right where I left off the next day.
I don't use any plugins or have much in my .tmux.conf. I remapped
splitting to Prefix+h and Prefix+v, and have some shortcuts for easier
movement:

# more intuitive keybindings for splitting
unbind %
bind h split-window -v
unbind '"'
bind v split-window -h

# switch windows using Alt-arrow without prefix
bind -n M-Left select-window -t:-1
bind -n M-Right select-window -t:+1
# switch panes using Shift-arrow without prefix
bind -n S-Left select-pane -L
bind -n S-Right select-pane -R
bind -n S-Up select-pane -U
bind -n S-Down select-pane -D
# move window left and right with Alt-Shift-arrow
bind-key -n M-S-Left swap-window -d -t -1
bind-key -n M-S-Right swap-window -d -t +1

The rest is just stuff you find in every tmux setup guide.


Just throwing out two options of what I have seen other people do:

1) Mount remote folders locally with sshfs and then use your favourite
editor on the machine itself.

2) Connect with x2go to the remote machine and run a desktop
environment on the remote machine.

I don't know whether these two work on MacOS or how difficult they are
to setup.

--
Best regards,
Daniel