From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 25 00:19:09 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B04C8917; Thu, 25 Apr 2013 00:19:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from scottl@samsco.org) Received: from pooker.samsco.org (pooker.samsco.org [168.103.85.57]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BE12158D; Thu, 25 Apr 2013 00:19:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (Scott4long@pooker.samsco.org [168.103.85.57]) (authenticated bits=0) by pooker.samsco.org (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id r3P0J4m3004409; Wed, 24 Apr 2013 18:19:05 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from scottl@samsco.org) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.3 \(1503\)) Subject: Re: ada(4) and ahci(4) quirk printing From: Scott Long In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2013 17:19:04 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <8EEE676F-839B-4230-9F2A-924AC41FFD6F@samsco.org> References: <20130422051452.GA2148@icarus.home.lan> <51763BF9.2000506@FreeBSD.org> <20130423092602.GA58831@icarus.home.lan> <51765466.4040209@FreeBSD.org> <4D28DBAE46424C268AA22FCDD8657946@multiplay.co.uk> <20130423114722.GA61919@icarus.home.lan> <20130423125144.GA62949@icarus.home.lan> <20130423134953.GA64010@icarus.home.lan> To: Adrian Chadd X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1503) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-50.0 required=3.8 tests=ALL_TRUSTED, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=unavailable version=3.3.0 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.0 (2010-01-18) on pooker.samsco.org Cc: Jeremy Chadwick , Tom Evans , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2013 00:19:09 -0000 Your meta-commentary here is irritating. They're called "quirks" because that is the named given to them in CAM> Scott On Apr 23, 2013, at 9:33 AM, Adrian Chadd wrote: > .. are we really debating this? > > Stop calling them quirks. That sounds like something that won't mess > up your actual runtime. It's not giving them enough "weight". They're > more "device behaviours" or "device flags" or something. Print them > out like that. I think that _not_ printing them out at boot time is > insane. Doubly so if it could cause issues before you can actually run > commands. > > So if it were me, I'd print out the device quirks like we print out > CPU flags. Ie, all the time. > > > > Adrian > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"