Date: 1 Jul 99 00:51:18 PDT From: Jesus Monroy <jesus.monroy@usa.net> To: Alfred Perlstein <bright@rush.net> Cc: advocacy@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [Re: [Re: [Re: [Re: [Re: etc...] Message-ID: <19990701075118.6859.qmail@nw171.netaddress.usa.net>
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Alfred Perlstein <bright@rush.net> wrote:
> On 30 Jun 1999, Jesus Monroy wrote:
> =
> > Alfred Perlstein <bright@rush.net> wrote:
> > > On 30 Jun 1999, Jesus Monroy wrote:
> > > > =
> > > > Do you feel yelling at the programers or
> > > > docuementers trying to find out where this
> > > > problem is? I certainly don't have the energy for this.
> > > =
> > > Wow, i'm glad i've never been given the beating you are when I =
> > > disagreed with some people on the lists... :)
> > > =
> > This is nothing. I actually think the love me. :-)
> =
> You've really pushed it too far when Jordan comes down on you.
> Please read on though.
> =
YACK, Yack, Yack.
> > > Problems with man pages is the most goddam easy
> > > thing to fix.
> > > =
> > > just use cvsup to grab the source tree in cvs =
> > > format, use this cvsup file:
> > > =
> > BUZZZZZtttt. wrong.
> > Are you helping M$ with their Y2K plan?
> > =
> > Did you hear that about M$?
> > They actually suggested that people download
> > at 200Megabyte file (MSiE) to fix a 2 byte problem.
> > =
> > Now, in your case, it's 4 paragraphs and 4-6
> > hours of my time. NO thank you.
> =
> Let's take this in perspective, there are two ways you
> could have aquired FreeBSD a) purchased cdrom b) download
> =
> switch(purchase) {
> a: you already have the repository on one of the cdroms,
> all you need to do is copy it over to harddisk and =
> then run cvsup against it, this will drastically cut
> down on the cvsup download size/time
> =
> b: you downloaded freebsd off the internet, bite the bullet
> and download the whole repo.
> =
> }
> =
Yes, I have this in my perspective. So what?
> > Let's ask a real question:
> > Why can't program fixers write the fricken man
> > page fix also?
> > What's up with that?
> =
> You mistakenly belive it's done on purpose, I assure you it's not.
> Sometimes people forget to document things. It's an innocent
> side effect of a rapidly evolving project.
> =
No, I have not made any such assumption. =
My assumtion is that no effort is made to clear
up this situation. You are lend evidence to this
arguement by showing true arrogance on this and
beleive that this is OKAY and that this is a
"rapidly evolving project". None of this is true.
More to the truth is, it is a group of amatuers that are
learning through the prospect of others. And with this,
when facts are pointed out more arrogance ensues.
My Point. My whole damm arguement, discussion, =
retoric and diatribe is that this does not need
to happen and has no reason to continue.
> > Is this the correct response:
> > Okay, I'll take the glory, but we have janitors
> > to clean up after we are done. We call them
> > document specialist(sp?).
> =
> No we call them "small contributors" and give them respect.
> You get a perminant entry in the cvs log on a "contributed by" line,
> it's a nice thing and actually gives you a warm fuzzy feeling
> when you see the commit go through, trust me.
> =
I can tell you, I'm getting no warm fuzzies.
I see things go from open->close and close->open
and back. What is that saying.
NO-cluebies at work.
> Notice there is no "bitched until I fixed it" line? :)
> =
Yes, thank you.
> > So let's try again,kids... Let talk about
> > a real answer, =
> > =
> > Or is everyone out on this one also.
> =
> No, i think everyone pretty much has agreed that you're a wanker,
> take a month off, fix some docs and file a pr. =
>
Nope.
> Use the web interface
> if you hate the command line one, i personally don't like the
> command line one because of reverse DNS issues.
> =
That is broken also.
> People will be waiting, you _can_ redeem yourself. :)
> =
They can wait in a M$ convention for all I care. :-)
> Patches lead the way to redemption.
> =
Not on your life. :-)
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