From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 3 11:50:21 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E5EF16A417 for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2008 11:50:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from mx-out-01.forthnet.gr (mx-out.forthnet.gr [193.92.150.104]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C66C13C474 for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2008 11:50:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from mx-av-03.forthnet.gr (mx-av.forthnet.gr [193.92.150.27]) by mx-out-01.forthnet.gr (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m13BoHMY022112 for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2008 13:50:17 +0200 Received: from MX-IN-01.forthnet.gr (mx-in-01.forthnet.gr [193.92.150.23]) by mx-av-03.forthnet.gr (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m13BoHDq012063 for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2008 13:50:17 +0200 Received: from kobe.laptop (ppp47-170.adsl.forthnet.gr [62.1.64.170]) by MX-IN-01.forthnet.gr (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m13BoGu4021693 for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2008 13:50:17 +0200 Authentication-Results: MX-IN-01.forthnet.gr smtp.mail=keramida@ceid.upatras.gr; spf=neutral Authentication-Results: MX-IN-01.forthnet.gr header.from=keramida@ceid.upatras.gr; sender-id=neutral Received: from kobe.laptop (kobe.laptop [127.0.0.1]) by kobe.laptop (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m13BoFEG002308 for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2008 13:50:15 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from keramida@localhost) by kobe.laptop (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) id m13BoELp002307 for freebsd-chat@freeBSD.org; Sun, 3 Feb 2008 13:50:14 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2008 13:50:14 +0200 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: freebsd-chat@freeBSD.org Message-ID: <20080203115013.GC2075@kobe.laptop> References: <200802012123.m11LNV3s061230@lurza.secnetix.de> <20080201225214.GA57322@melon.esperance-linux.co.uk> <863asaopbz.fsf@ds4.des.no> <20080203010151.GA62332@melon.esperance-linux.co.uk> <20080203041304.GA5298@kobe.laptop> <20080203073317.GA64281@melon.esperance-linux.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20080203073317.GA64281@melon.esperance-linux.co.uk> Cc: Subject: Re: why is it called /boot/beastie.4th ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Feb 2008 11:50:21 -0000 On 2008-02-03 07:33, Frank Shute wrote: >On Sun, Feb 03, 2008 at 06:13:05AM +0200, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: >>On 2008-02-03 01:01, Frank Shute wrote: >>>On Sun, Feb 03, 2008 at 01:28:48AM +0100, Dag-Erling Smrgrav wrote: >>>>Frank Shute writes: >>>>> Should be done by default IMO. Used to be until the religious maniacs >>>>> started going on about devil worship and other such nonsense. >>>> >>>> No, it was removed because it was butt-ugly. ASCII art stopped being >>>> cool twenty years ago. >>> >>> And the ascii Freebsd that it was replaced with is beautiful?! And >>> cool?!! >>> >>> I like the ascii beastie and you've got no taste ;) >>> >>> If it were put to a vote, the beast would win by a country mile amongst >>> those users with taste! >> >> Taste... it's always 'taste' in a way or another. >> >> Since there *is* an option, which interested people can tweak to their >> heart's desire, and the source *IS* *OPEN* for anyone to modify on their >> own if the option is not enough, can we drop the ad hominem's and move >> on with actually *hacking* FreeBSD to make it better? > > I thought chat@ was the place to hang out when you'd had enough of > "hacking"? It is. I just thought the tone of the last exchanges started being `too much' even for chat. FreeBSD is famous as a project, including both the developers *and* the user community, for its civilized attitude and the maturity of email exchanges. We don't really *need* all that personal attack stuff :/ > As for taste, it's due to a lack of taste that we're now lumbered with > a sex toy as a logo. I don't feel particularly well about the new logo either, but that's a bit besides the point. I am not using FreeBSD because I like its current logo or because I like the style of monospaced text in the web pages (I don't, there are horrendous CSS bugs in the web site, which I have often complained about). I am using FreeBSD because I like the way it works, I like the quality of its source code base, and most importantly: I like the people ;) > Keep the text as a monument to somebody's stupidity and a project gone > awry... and the bloody sex toy. I suppose we should be thankful that the `sex toy' doesn't render well in ASCII art. Now that would be fun ...