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Date:      Tue, 26 Aug 1997 11:07:23 -0700
From:      Tom Proett <proett@nas.nasa.gov>
To:        bartling@cyrix.com (Steve Bartling)
Subject:   Re: Freebsd2.2.2, adaptec 1742A and Ultra SCSI drive 
Message-ID:  <199708261807.LAA18908@tailspin.nas.nasa.gov>
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Mon, 25 Aug 1997 23:24:57 CDT." <199708260424.XAA15735@mega.eng.cyrix.com> 

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Hi,

I have a 1742 with a quantum atlas drive so I had to fuz with
the disk to get it to work with the adaptec.  Here is the
email that saved me.  It is archived on the freebsd site.

Tom

> > >I replaced a defective Micropolis 2217 1.7 Gig Fast SCSI-2
> > >drive with a new ultra scsi Micropolis 4743NS.
> > 
> > You may want to try playing around with mode page two on
> > the drive.  I remeber that the Atlas I wouldn't work on the 1742A
> > unless you slowed it down a little bit.  It seems that if you
> > cut your bus signal times close to the minimum the spec allows,
> > the 1742 becomes confused.  There is probably a FAQ entry
> > somewhere on Quantum's web site that talks about the problem
> > the Atlas I had and hopefully the solution they give is not
> > vendor specific and can be used on your 4743NS.
> > 
> > --
> > Justin T. Gibbs
> > ===========================================
> >   FreeBSD: Turning PCs into workstations
> > ===========================================



Date:      Wed, 8 May 1996 10:09:54 +0200
From:      Lars Koeller <Lars_Koeller@odie.physik2.uni-rostock.de>
To:        proett@nas.nasa.gov, Lars_Koeller@odie.physik2.uni-rostock.de
Cc:        freebsd-questions@freefall.FreeBSD.org
Sender:    owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: quantum atlas vs adaptec

   Hi!

> I grep'ed through the FAQ to see if there was any info on this but didn't
> find it so here goes...
>
> I bought a Quantum Atlas scsi disk drive (XP34300) and connected it to
> my Adaptec 1742A scsi adaptor.  I have a micropolis disk as scsi id 0
> and the atlas is scsi id 1.  The adaptec is scsi id 7.
>
> I started from DOS and ran fdisk fine.  Then I tried format.  All went
> well until the end when it was going to write the label.  At this point,
> the system froze with the drive and adaptor busy lights on solid.
> I tried doing a few things with the drive and almost everything resulted
> in a freeze.  I contacted Quantum and they said there was a timing problem
> between the atlas and the adaptec 1742 and gave me a firmware upgrade for
> the disk.  It completed with no error but the freeze still happens.
> Trying to access the disk from FreeBSD results in a freeze as well.

      Yes, I  have the same  problem with an  Atlas XP32150 and the Adaptex
   1742A.   The reason is  the cache of the  Atlas  and the "slow" Adaptec.
   When the disc gets  the blocks out of  the cache, it's  too fast for the
   controller and locks the  SCSI-bus cause the first bytes  are lost.  The
   solution  of this is  to edit the mode  page of  the Atlas (getting this
   information cousts me 3 days  of hard search in  the newsgroups). So  do
   the following:

     - get the dsp programm for  dos to edit the  scsi mode pages (you
       can get it from my anonymous ftp server).

     - edit the vendor specific mode page 0x25 (hex)

     - you get a byte-stream of
                24 00 10 08 ..... a5 17 00 00 00 00 05 02 00 ....
                                  ^              ^
                                  |              Byte 0x05
                                  Begin of Page (byte 0x0)

     - change the byte 0x05 (set bit 3) to 0x08 this enables a 15 mys delay
       for blocks out of the cache.

     - all runs fine!

     - NOTE: all the above  fits for a 2  GB Atlas, but should also work
             for the 4 GB version.

   Be happy about this fast harddrive. Please e-mail on success.

   Regards

   Lars

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Universität Rostock              E-Mail:
Fachbereich Physik                 Lars_Koeller@odie.physik2.Uni-Rostock.DE
Universitätsplatz 3              Anonymous ftp:
18051 Rostock (Germany)            ftp://odie.physik2.uni-rostock.de/pub

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