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Interestingly, while people seem to be (arguably rightly) focused on
criticising Phoronix's benchmarking, nobody has offered an alternative
benchmark; and while (again, arguably rightly) it is important to
benchmark real world performance, equally, nobody has offered any
numbers in relation to, for example, HTTP or SMTP, or any other "real
world"-application torture tests done on the aforementioned two
platforms... IMO, this just goes to show that "doing is hard" and
"criticising is much easier" (yes, I am aware of the irony involved in
making this statement, but someone has to!)


Cheers,
Igor M :-)