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Date:      Tue, 19 May 1998 09:00:54 +0200 (MET DST)
From:      Luigi Rizzo <luigi@labinfo.iet.unipi.it>
To:        hasty@rah.star-gate.com (Amancio Hasty)
Cc:        bde@zeta.org.au, ahasty@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-sys@FreeBSD.ORG, roger@cs.strath.ac.uk
Subject:   Re: cvs commit: src/sys/pci brooktree848.c
Message-ID:  <199805190700.JAA08754@labinfo.iet.unipi.it>
In-Reply-To: <199805190825.BAA01249@rah.star-gate.com> from "Amancio Hasty" at May 19, 98 01:24:49 am

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> It sure will be nice to have a uniform way to configure the kernel and its
> modules ala sysctl rather than having to remember N "hairy device specific" 
> programs.
...
> > >troubles to people in the US.  At least this sysctl helps fixing
> > >things without having to change sources or recompile.
> > 
> > So would an ioctl.  You just make the setting sticky and change it only

in my view sticky ioctl settings are one of the worse things you can
have. Just look at the tty[il]xx mess.

The only advantage is that you can make the settings act per device
instead of on all devices of the same type. But having to use different
programs for setting things is not fun.

> > 2) sysctl variables are a bit easier to find using `sysctl -a | grep ':'
> >    This is being fixed by letting sysctl variables grow like weeds :-).

the namespace is hierarchical, and this is the BIG advantage over other
methods, so you can filter them quite effectively.

	cheers
	luigi
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