From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 20 21:14:42 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 741CD16A481 for ; Wed, 20 Jun 2007 21:14:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jrhett@svcolo.com) Received: from kininvie.sv.svcolo.com (kininvie.sv.svcolo.com [64.13.135.12]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57AD413C45A for ; Wed, 20 Jun 2007 21:14:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jrhett@svcolo.com) Received: from [10.67.240.119] (public-wireless.sc.svcolo.com [64.13.143.30]) (authenticated bits=0) by kininvie.sv.svcolo.com (8.13.8/8.13.4) with ESMTP id l5KLEYve021838; Wed, 20 Jun 2007 14:14:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jrhett@svcolo.com) In-Reply-To: <46798C80.6020108@danielbond.org> References: <20070620151306.GM45993@therub.org> <20070620115023971992.49dc4616@kjsl.com> <20070620164749.GN45993@therub.org> <44A91A3E-96EA-46F3-ABE4-01C4662B5A5F@svcolo.com> <46798C80.6020108@danielbond.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Jo Rhett Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2007 14:14:27 -0700 To: Daniel Bond X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) X-Spam-Score: undef - jrhett@svcolo.com is whitelisted. X-CanItPRO-Stream: default X-Canit-Stats-ID: 114558 - 7e662ca87e56 X-Scanned-By: CanIt (www . roaringpenguin . com) on 64.13.135.12 Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: how much beer do I need to get this patch applied? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2007 21:14:42 -0000 On Jun 20, 2007, at 1:22 PM, Daniel Bond wrote: > I like Kurt's approach Well the goal is to allow either approach to work. Kurt is arguing against this patch because it doesn't work for him... > having a mailfilter/script-pipe which could > remove dynamic variables like timestamps etc, and checksum it against > against a "empty" template to see if its deletable. > This also verifies that mail-delivery is working, and machine is > not dead. But thats where the logic fails. Show me a mailfilter that will observe the lack of a message? Nobody who is against this patch is making logical arguments... Yes, I agree in theory. If you have scripts that output a lot of data every time and you need to look for anomolies, then a mailfilter/ pipe approach makes a lot of sense. But that doesn't mean that this patch is a bad idea. -- Jo Rhett senior geek Silicon Valley Colocation Support Phone: 408-400-0550