From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 29 16:31:32 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5213216A4DF for ; Sat, 29 Jul 2006 16:31:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from atom.powers@gmail.com) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.180]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D04BE43D4C for ; Sat, 29 Jul 2006 16:31:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from atom.powers@gmail.com) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id b36so118172pyb for ; Sat, 29 Jul 2006 09:31:31 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=MH3SIyAaOSXG1scJGtl8S7XngMKxYuzJfBKWC2r7tJ2eAjyn9d7B028sbAcMtZnFMfeOmO6w9IQqb/QoF4I1pWLuz7cGttpjD1Mc3qQzhSFPckvYWnu00e+KYLDqDuybEKW19zhNlPwjDb5Mh6hYsx5bKe1emwszB5OjOk50QzY= Received: by 10.35.113.12 with SMTP id q12mr969829pym; Sat, 29 Jul 2006 09:31:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.35.110.6 with HTTP; Sat, 29 Jul 2006 09:31:30 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2006 09:31:30 -0700 From: "Atom Powers" To: "User Freebsd" In-Reply-To: <20060728222430.V27679@ganymede.hub.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <20060728164526.E27679@ganymede.hub.org> <20060728222430.V27679@ganymede.hub.org> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Gotta start somewhere ... how many of us are really out there? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2006 16:31:32 -0000 On 7/28/06, User Freebsd wrote: > On Fri, 28 Jul 2006, Atom Powers wrote: > > > My shop runs 30+ FreeBSD hosts, and I have several more for personal > > use. But of those there are maybe 2-3 that I would be ok with listing > > and exactly zero that I will actually list. It's not that I don't want > > to help, but I'm not going to run a process like that on a production > > server. > > It is definitely your perogative, but I'm curious as to why not? You have > the source code for the client, so its not some sort of 'spyware' that is > sitting running on your machine ... > The over riding question here is not "why not" but "why". A package like this doesn't help the server run faster or better. It is another piece of code that has to be audited and maintained. I take a very minimalist approach to my systems. How about this, ask the portsnap mirrors how many connections they get. Since portsnap is already in the base system and is now the preferred ports update method, you can get a much better aproximation (although still very under-represented) of how many hosts are out there. -- -- Perfection is just a word I use occasionally with mustard. --Atom Powers--