From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 30 01:19:44 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7CB816A4CE; Thu, 30 Sep 2004 01:19:44 +0000 (GMT) Received: from electra.cse.Buffalo.EDU (electra.cse.Buffalo.EDU [128.205.32.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49C2843D39; Thu, 30 Sep 2004 01:19:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kensmith@cse.Buffalo.EDU) Received: from electra.cse.Buffalo.EDU (localhost [127.0.0.1]) i8U1JaTH023674; Wed, 29 Sep 2004 21:19:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from kensmith@localhost) by electra.cse.Buffalo.EDU (8.12.10/8.12.9/Submit) id i8U1JZEm023673; Wed, 29 Sep 2004 21:19:35 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 21:19:34 -0400 From: Ken Smith To: Kris Kennaway Message-ID: <20040930011934.GA23466@electra.cse.Buffalo.EDU> References: <20040929.174914.05878370.imp@bsdimp.com> <20040930004417.GA49094@xor.obsecurity.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20040930004417.GA49094@xor.obsecurity.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i cc: Daniel Eischen cc: kensmith@cse.Buffalo.EDU cc: tjr@freebsd.org cc: "M. Warner Losh" cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: HEADS-UP: Library version number bumps X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 01:19:45 -0000 On Wed, Sep 29, 2004 at 05:44:17PM -0700, Kris Kennaway wrote: > That hasn't worked very well during the 5.x branch, as the current > thread (and previous iterations of it) show. All I was able to look > for were incompatible changes to the symbol table; other types of > breakage like incompatible changes to function interfaces and data > structures are much more difficult to detect. For what it's worth... I did find out a fair bit too late that there are a few things that are specifically being held off because they do break things in this fashion, but are things we need to do at some point. Not sure exactly when doing that sort of thing is best... -- Ken Smith - From there to here, from here to | kensmith@cse.buffalo.edu there, funny things are everywhere. | - Theodore Geisel |