From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Feb 6 23:30:27 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from blackbird.lonetree.com (blackbird.lonetree.com [207.141.55.3]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B1CB3DD8; Sun, 6 Feb 2000 23:30:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from csocs.com [209.64.46.26] by blackbird.lonetree.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-6.00) id A48BB9F30144; Mon, 07 Feb 2000 00:30:19 -0700 Message-ID: <389E75C4.F5A004E7@csocs.com> Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2000 00:35:32 -0700 From: "Jonathan C. Frazier" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Stanley Hopcroft Cc: FreeBSD-Questions@FreeBSD.ORG, FreeBSD-ISP@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Performance of FreeBSD and MS Windows. What about select() and memorymanagement etc ? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG ok, this is so far off and out of line I don't even know where to begin to argue. So instead I'll give you a few examples and a resource and you can educate yourself. 1. Microsoft itself uses a combination of Solaris and Redhat machines to run their own network (web pages and mail included) 2. http://www.unix-vs-nt.org/kirch (read it, know it, love it, live it) 3. Microsoft admits it's poor performance and that it trails unixs.... http://www.techweb.com/wire/story/TWB19980728S0004 4. Some of the largest and busiest sites on the net are run on FreeBSD itself...that says a lot... (ever hear of Yahoo, Cisco, Sony, Mercedes Benz, Yellow Cab, and even Microsoft) Check out these other companies that use Linux for day-to-day operations: http://www.m-tech.ab.ca/linux-biz/ 5. The hidden cost of NT: http://www.informationweek.com/692/92iuhid.htm 6. Big lies of NT: http://www.zdnet.com/pccomp/features/fea0797/nt/sub1.html The fact remains that Microsoft has been far behind in performance, stability and reliability for years. A smart business can not afford to depend on an NT for mission critical reliability. UNIX's have stood rock solid for over 30 years. We have servers running here on FreeBSD and Linux that have 3-4 years uptime. I've never seen a case that comes close with Microsoft. We can argue about system calls all day long, but when you put one up against the other, you'll see the difference. Benchtests can be used to argue anything and can be swayed and manipulated. They don't tell you much. With literally millions of dollars in advertising supporting Microsoft OS's, you won't hear too much unfavorable information about them. There's a reason for the popularity and it's not performance or stability, its advertising and market manipulation. The arguments will continue ad noisome long after all of us are in our graves. The arguments are the same, only the OS will change. Take it from me, or experiment yourself.....Run an NT, a Linux, and a BSD system back to back and see the order they die in.....see if MS's web server can stand up to Apache. I guarantee you MS will be the first to go down. And then after the fact you can compare prices...what each one cost, MS licensing fees, etc. I think you'll understand finally then what its all about. J.C. Frazier To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message