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Date:      Fri, 19 Mar 2004 17:53:09 -0500 (EST)
From:      Jerry McAllister <jerrymc@clunix.cl.msu.edu>
To:        bobc@anything-inc.com (Bob Collins)
Cc:        freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Top posting
Message-ID:  <200403192253.i2JMrAA26441@clunix.cl.msu.edu>
In-Reply-To: <20040319223154.GA31596@yoda.anything-inc.com> from "Bob Collins" at Mar 19, 2004 05:31:54 PM

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> 
> On Fri, Mar 19, 2004, Charles McManis clacked the keyboard to produce:
> > Perhaps it isn't "logical", if you've read all the email then the quoted 
> > thread is just reference anyway. This is the "new stuff". I love being able 
> > to read mail in the preview-pane vs "next message" , jump to the bottom, 
> > "next message" jump to the bottom.

Maybe, if you only have one thread to deal with.  But in any given day
I am seeing hundreds of messages from scores of threads.   Some precious
but out of context tidbit is easily orphaned and becomes meaningless.

////jerry

> > 
> > It comes down to opinion I think
> > --Chuck
> > 
> > 
> > On Friday 19 March 2004 09:46, Louis LeBlanc wrote:
> > > On 03/19/04 09:21 AM, Joshua Lokken sat at the `puter and typed:
> > > > http://www.google.com/search?q=rfc+top+posting&sourceid=mozilla-search&st
> > > >art=0&start=0&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Wow, almost every single reply to the list today was top posted.
> > > > People, please know (and you must, you have to read them, too)
> > > > that posting replies to the top of an email is, well, counter-
> > > > intuitive, hard to follow, and goes against the general grain of
> > > > RFC 1855.  Please, it has been requested from many users of this
> > > > list, do not top post replies, but don't stop sending them ;)
> > >
> > > Yes, it has been requested from many users, and quite a few have flat
> > > out refused to follow this logical norm.  Others simply follow the
> > > precedent set in any given thread, and some few will go so far as to
> > > delete the trailing messages and try to herd an already errant thread
> > > in the right direction.  For my part, my reply behavior depends on the
> > > audience.  One would think that a company with so many geeks (from
> > > developers to SW architects) would tend to do this right, but not so.
> > >
> > > Bottom line, don't hold your breath.  Unfortunately, many mail clients
> > > don't show the replied email during reply composition but place it
> > > below the response, and most default to replying at the top anyway.
> > > Most users just don't bother to correct it when the option is there.
> > >
> > > I feel your pain dude.
> > >
> > > Lou
> > 
> 
> [format broken, see above and then back down to here]
> 
> No, it is not logical. If everyone top-posts, the email must be read in
> reverse to recapture thoughts of others or points made. If twleve people
> reply properly and you reply the way your `opinion' tells you too, you
> have broken the path or reading, by forcing people to jump to the bottom
> to refresh the last message and then back to the top to get the latest
> thoughts or info. It is also quite obnoxious to review such top-posters
> threads that are intermixed when looking through the archives.
> 
> Finally, as pointed out previously, it does not follow convention. It is
> much like Microsft `enhancing' an industry standard, which actually
> breaks the standard.
> 
> -- 
> Bob
> 
> "Play is the work of children. It's very serious stuff. And if it's
> properly structured in a developmental program, children can blossom."
> -Bob Keeshan aka `Captain Kangaroo'
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