Date: Sat, 18 Apr 1998 18:07:08 -0700 (PDT) From: Joey Garcia <bear@pacificnet.net> To: Edwin Culp <eculp@ver1.telmex.net.mx> Cc: Dan Benjamin <dpb@mail.hqs.crc.com>, Stefanos Kiakas <stefanos@ringworld.uniscape.com>, freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: salesman is thinking..... Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.96.980418175335.449B-100000@mustang> In-Reply-To: <35390C79.13956D1B@ver1.telmex.net.mx>
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Personally, I use Tcl/Tk apps....don't know how to write them, but I know how to compile and use them. That's because I'm just a user, not a programmer. I also use KDE...because it looks nice, it works great, and makes life on a Unix workstation so much easier. I don't have to mess with any rc files or anything like that. KDE is simple...point and click. That might be "icky" to programmers, but it's nice to users. What's the point of the computer revolution (newer faster chips, faster motherboards and video cards, etc) if we're stuck using CLI all the time. Sure, it's quick and dirty, and sometimes easier...but GUI tools can be just as good, if not better. Sometimes I'm compelled to say, "Out with the old, and in with the new." In other words, let's dump the old methods and develop new methods, but I know that many would disagree. Hell, even sometimes I would too. I understand that CLI tools are alot smaller and less memory dependent than alot of GUI tools. And, on a Unix system that has a heavy workload....you many not want the drag. So, a CLI enviroment is a good thing. But that's the beauty of Unix...if you only want CLI...then don't install X. If you want GUI, then install X and associated tools. It's all up to the user/administrator. Anyways...as I read back...it seems like I'm just rambling. Sorry. But my point is...average Users coming from a Windows world need tools that are just as easy to use as those found in other OS's (you know which I'm talking about...don't need to say it). Those easy to use graphical tools would make FreeBSD a bit more attractive to them. Powerful + Pretty = more people using FreeBSD for whatever reason. Well, at least that's my opinion...which may not mean much. :) Oh yeah, one more thing....let's try to steal people away from Linux. :) Actually, I'm migrating from Linux to FreeBSD. Joey Garcia =================================================== Joseph Garcia Downey, CA bear@pacificnet.net "Dont drink and drive, you might spill the beer." =================================================== On Sat, 18 Apr 1998, Edwin Culp wrote: > Time to put on my flame proof suit. I can't wait any more. What is > wrong > with comming up with a vga xwindows and a simple mozilla as a > configuration > front end for configuration. This is the front end that more than maybe > 80 Million people are using. Doesn't this tell us something? How many > people are using Tcl/Tk or any other option? > > Thanks > > ed > > > Dan Benjamin wrote: > > > > Stefanos Kiakas writes: > > > > > I know! It is not difficult to use the CLI, but it does not matter to > > > them and they don't care, *they want a GUI*. > > > > This is very often the case in my experiences as well, and has, in some > > cases, been the reason a company might want NT in the first place (let's > > not go there). > > > > > No let's not go with Tcl/Tk, how many versions are there? Let's go with > > > a WWW interface and a Java or GNUstep interface. The WWW interface will allow > > > the sysadmin to modify the server parameters without being at the console and > > > can use any OS he pleases Win98/MacOS/OS2/etc. The same could be said for Java. > > > > This is an excellent point - and I know that from my standpoint, access to > > the server from anywhere on a floor or in a building (the way I depend on > > telnet) would be a great selling point. > > > > -Dan B. > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message
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