From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jun 12 07:35:37 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id HAA29896 for isp-outgoing; Thu, 12 Jun 1997 07:35:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from etinc.com (et-gw-fr1.etinc.com [204.141.244.98]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA29891 for ; Thu, 12 Jun 1997 07:35:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ntws (ntws.etinc.com [204.141.95.142]) by etinc.com (8.8.3/8.6.9) with SMTP id KAA06044; Thu, 12 Jun 1997 10:43:00 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19970612103403.00af02b0@etinc.com> X-Sender: dennis@etinc.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Thu, 12 Jun 1997 10:34:15 -0400 To: jamie@dilbert.iagnet.net From: dennis Subject: Re: Router Cc: isp@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk At 07:56 PM 6/11/97 -0400, you wrote: >> >> IMHO, Cisco /is/ the standard, and the only reason to go with >> >> anything else would have to be the price. But, as always, it >> >> depends heavily on what your requirements are. >> >> It depends what your doing. Ciscos dont to PPP well (although so >> dont lots of other products), and also on your technical prowess. If > >Huh? > >We have about 150 T1 customers, probably 20 or more of them are PPP. >The PPP connections are just as stable as the HDLC connections. >We run them on AGS's and 7513s, both individual serial cards and >channelized T3.. numbered and unnumbered. As for *stabliity*, you've been lucky as they send out random bad packets with echo enabled, theres no way to gracefully bring down the link (ie issuing a term request) and the performance is off vs hdlc with echo enabled. Of course I was talking about 2501's (as the discussion here certainly doesn't pertain to 7500 series routers), but I *assume* that they are running the same protocol code on both. Maybe not. db