From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Jul 11 19:27:38 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from q.closedsrc.org (ip233.gte15.rb1.bel.nwlink.com [209.20.244.233]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB0BA37B403 for ; Wed, 11 Jul 2001 19:27:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lplist@closedsrc.org) Received: by q.closedsrc.org (Postfix, from userid 1003) id 5832B55407; Wed, 11 Jul 2001 19:11:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by q.closedsrc.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4662851610; Wed, 11 Jul 2001 19:11:30 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2001 19:11:30 -0700 (PDT) From: Linh Pham To: Murray Stokely Cc: Chern Lee , Subject: Re: ASCII Diagram Replacements In-Reply-To: <20010711190725.B49668@meow.osd.bsdi.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 2001-07-11, Murray Stokely scribbled: # This appears to be a problem : # # "Please note: While Kivio is a GPL application, all the stencil sets # provided by theKompany.com, including the basic stencil shapes # bundled with Kivio are copywritten and owned by theKompany.com. All # information and images provided are copywritten and cannot be used # in part or in whole for any other work, including free or # commercial stencil sets. You are free to create your own stencil # sets from your own work." I guess I didn't see that restriction :( The one thing that I do like about Kivio (from what I have read) is that it uses Python for scripting. I wonder how hard it is to create a standard set of stencils... # If this can be resolved then great, we've got another tool that can be # used. I think the general question that needs to be answered is how # important is consistency? Adam Stanislav made some nice looking # PostScript diagrams by hand. I actually prefer the Dia output, but # his were still very good. The main problem I have with his images is # that we now must rely on him to hand craft every PostScript file in # the handbook if we want any kind of consistency. I guess I'm glad that the only time I have to deal with Postscript files is when I take a PS file and convert it to PDF (of course, I do the conversion on a Windows machine... shame on me). Is there a decent PS to PDF converter available in the Ports collection? I don't remember seeing one. # A far better option would be if we can all agree that we very much # value consistency. If that is the case then it will mean # standardizing on an open-source application (or set of applications, # or simply a stencil-set to be used with any application) to draw # network diagrams for our documentation. From what I've seen Dia and # Kivio are sufficiently similar that we shouldn't have to choose # between one or the other. We just must choose to standardize on those # applications (and this means making new images to replaces the # excellent ones that Adam made for the ISDN section) and not to allow # any random .eps file that doesn't bear a strong resemblance to our # existing diagrams. Consistency is definitely a big point... it also shows professionalism and it makes it easier to process the visual data in the brain. -- Linh Pham [lplist@closedsrc.org] // 404b - Brain not found To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message