From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 13 15:52:29 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 223D41065675; Wed, 13 Jun 2012 15:52:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from adrian.chadd@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pz0-f54.google.com (mail-pz0-f54.google.com [209.85.210.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE2828FC1A; Wed, 13 Jun 2012 15:52:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: by dadv36 with SMTP id v36so1253203dad.13 for ; Wed, 13 Jun 2012 08:52:28 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=1rJpa30k5kM1pzPuUKiXGa9Wy8GYd33Juz0CN0jiiBQ=; b=Q/oHIU4RqyauVQneNEGItFCl91QZyD6uCZXc5o4Z0/eYb/v/0lGcNgAOhYEK58ojHg 3+I5egkCCFRGpvP+6yPlDCLwSYwEOTZPdV6xNg4qNp9SnbHPrFPeaSHZc2xYyH4mqi3V 2IA5PT08UiJwn009K6KI34BUC7yTdGi/u2/8uJ1O6qJqivHWnMdMiKGsXHVfFJZV78g7 If/sdQ+2+teKyS4pJG/oIeZrelsUU+roK12EJEWnKDIa+hm7TpeMJCvB1X+S138JRZwJ AgLgAWwMtrvPzPgOn5s3Xk9AQ61bOPqQzlqJQ3WuRc2DEYfxSFAryXDT8tNkUy6w+gVB UZDw== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.68.234.35 with SMTP id ub3mr52385804pbc.8.1339602748583; Wed, 13 Jun 2012 08:52:28 -0700 (PDT) Sender: adrian.chadd@gmail.com Received: by 10.143.91.18 with HTTP; Wed, 13 Jun 2012 08:52:28 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <201206130853.32687.jhb@freebsd.org> References: <201206130853.32687.jhb@freebsd.org> Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2012 08:52:28 -0700 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 4Q4pZiLV2imeVavxwtDia10jY6U Message-ID: From: Adrian Chadd To: John Baldwin Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, Matt Olander , Mark Linimon Subject: Re: Upcoming release schedule - 8.4 ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2012 15:52:29 -0000 On 13 June 2012 05:53, John Baldwin wrote: >> You don't need to change the FreeBSD culture. We'd love to do an 8.4 >> release. And an 8.5 release, and 8.6 release, etc. The problem is one >> of resources and time, not of culture/desire. > > I disagree. =A0The pace of X.0 releases is a deliberate choice FreeBSD > has made and directly impacts the number of "live" branches in existence. > Given our developer base, we can't really support 3 branches concurrently > (head + 2 stable like we have now with head, 9, and 8). =A0Having longer = lived > stable branches requires either increasing resources to support exising > releases longer, or slowing the pace of X.0 releases (but more aggressive= ly > merging things from HEAD back). =A0The latter case, especially, is part o= f > the culture and would be a choice we as a Project would have to make. Right, but I don't think the freebsd project would really mind or change much if more people came on board to handle legacy releases and support them. If you're a company that uses FreeBSD stable releases, please consider contributing engineering resources and/or donations to the Foundation to improve the support of said stable releases. :) Adrian