From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 10 18:01:03 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68AD716A4D6 for ; Fri, 10 Dec 2004 18:01:03 +0000 (GMT) Received: from hosea.tallye.com (joel.tallye.com [216.99.199.78]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C07F943D67 for ; Fri, 10 Dec 2004 18:01:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lorenl@alzatex.com) Received: from hosea.tallye.com (hosea.tallye.com [127.0.0.1]) by hosea.tallye.com (8.12.8/8.12.10) with ESMTP id iBAI0OYs001073 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 10 Dec 2004 10:00:25 -0800 Received: (from sttng359@localhost) by hosea.tallye.com (8.12.8/8.12.10/Submit) id iBAI0O4U001071; Fri, 10 Dec 2004 10:00:24 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: hosea.tallye.com: sttng359 set sender to lorenl@alzatex.com using -f Date: Fri, 10 Dec 2004 10:00:24 -0800 From: "Loren M. Lang" To: Jerry McAllister Message-ID: <20041210180023.GA32210@alzatex.com> References: <41B9D751.4090105@dsl.pipex.com> <200412101716.iBAHGp022228@clunix.cl.msu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable In-Reply-To: <200412101716.iBAHGp022228@clunix.cl.msu.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-GPG-Key: ftp://ftp.tallye.com/pub/lorenl_pubkey.asc X-GPG-Fingerprint: B3B9 D669 69C9 09EC 1BCD 835A FAF3 7A46 E4A3 280C cc: Ruben de Groot cc: Mark Cullen cc: "Loren M. Lang" cc: Jeff Lawlor cc: Eric Kjeldergaard cc: FreeBSD Mailing list Subject: Re: Linux kernel on FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Dec 2004 18:01:03 -0000 On Fri, Dec 10, 2004 at 12:16:49PM -0500, Jerry McAllister wrote: > >=20 > > Jeff Lawlor wrote: > > > On Fri, 2004-12-10 at 09:07, Ruben de Groot wrote: > > >=20 > > >>On Fri, Dec 10, 2004 at 08:49:50AM -0600, Jeff Lawlor typed: > > >> > > >>>For programs that require linux kernel source code what about copying > > >>>the linux kernel source files from a linux box on to the FreeBSD > > >>>machine? Has anyone tried this? =20 > > >> > > >>Please name 1 program that requires linux kernel source code to run. > > >> > > >=20 > > >=20 > > > Cisco VPN. > >=20 > > Port: vpnc-0.3.2 > > Path: /usr/ports/security/vpnc > > Info: Client for Cisco 3000 VPN Concentrator > > Maint: delta@lackas.net > > B-deps: expat-1.95.8 gettext-0.13.1_1 gmake-3.80_2 libgcrypt-1.2.0_1=20 > > libgpg-error-1.0_1 libiconv-1.9.2_1 perl-5.8.5 > > R-deps: expat-1.95.8 gettext-0.13.1_1 libgcrypt-1.2.0_1=20 > > libgpg-error-1.0_1 libiconv-1.9.2_1 perl-5.8.5 > >=20 > >=20 > > This one? I have no idea what this thread is about, but that's in ports= .=20 > > Wouldn't Linux emulation work anyway? >=20 > I think it was sort of a newbie question from someone who has yet to > learn about ports and also the Linux emulation available in FreeBSD. First, I don't consider myself a newbie, but I do have a lot less experience with freebsd than linux. And I don't think this idea is that impractical, but maybe just not that useful as a better answer might just be a more bsd-like distro like slackware, but I think even slackware likes to use bash as it's main shell. >=20 > First they seemed to think they would have to somehow import the Linux=20 > kernel in to FreeBSD somehow to run a Lunix driver, showing unfamiliarity= =20 > with the Linux emulation already there that allows Lunix stuff to be run.= =20 Does linux emulation allow me to run the usb visor driver on freebsd or enable me to use the latest ati 3d graphics driver available for linux? If there's a way than tell me. The linux emulation is just for running linux binaries like doom 3 which it does very well, but it doesn't help in kernel space. >=20 > Then they did not seem to know about the vpnc (or other stuff) already in= =20 > ports to perform the function[s] they want. I have to admit, searching > /usr/ports can be a bit time consuming and tedius if you get started on > a wrong track. I never brought up vpnc or anything about vpns, that was someone else, but I did mention the freebsd kernel seems to be lacking some hw support that linux does not, and that's a much harder problem to fix then trying to get linux software to run on freebsd. There isn't really any replacement in ports that I can find for my realtek card or my sony clie, both of which were given to me, not specifically my choice. >=20 > Anyway, hopefully, you have enlightened them. >=20 > ////jerry --=20 I sense much NT in you. NT leads to Bluescreen. Bluescreen leads to downtime. Downtime leads to suffering. NT is the path to the darkside. Powerful Unix is. Public Key: ftp://ftp.tallye.com/pub/lorenl_pubkey.asc Fingerprint: B3B9 D669 69C9 09EC 1BCD 835A FAF3 7A46 E4A3 280C =20