From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 14 22:11:11 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97AAE1065670 for ; Tue, 14 Sep 2010 22:11:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sterling@camdensoftware.com) Received: from wh2.interactivevillages.com (wh2.interactivevillages.com [75.125.250.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E0608FC26 for ; Tue, 14 Sep 2010 22:11:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from 174-21-101-5.tukw.qwest.net ([174.21.101.5] helo=_HOSTNAME_) by wh2.interactivevillages.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OvdZj-0000Eg-By for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 14 Sep 2010 15:02:04 -0700 Received: by _HOSTNAME_ (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Tue, 14 Sep 2010 15:11:05 -0700 Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2010 15:11:05 -0700 From: Chip Camden To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20100914221105.GA2760@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <86zkvk2f92.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="DocE+STaALJfprDB" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <86zkvk2f92.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Company: Camden Software Consulting URL: http://camdensoftware.com X-PGP-Key: http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?search=0xD6DBAF91 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - wh2.interactivevillages.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - camdensoftware.com Subject: Re: this is probably a little touchy to ask... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2010 22:11:11 -0000 --DocE+STaALJfprDB Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Quoth Randal L. Schwartz on Tuesday, 14 September 2010: > >>>>> "Jules" =3D=3D Jules Gilbert writes: >=20 > Jules> Now, if Oracle won't adjust their thinking, I intend to look at Ja= va > Jules> sub-systems that are supplied and built by other people than Oracl= e. > Jules> (It's called Open Source.) >=20 > And that's what I tried to say in my last few posts. Given Oracle's > apparent stance to own Java not by copyright but by patent, it doesn't > *matter* that Java is "open source". We'll have to wait until Oracle > v. Google is decided, but unless Google can invalidate Oracle's > *patents* on Java, Java is effectively dead, unless you want to sleep in > Oracle's bed. >=20 =2E.. and Oracle makes for a large bedfellow, with a reputation for a painful embrace. --=20 Sterling (Chip) Camden | sterling@camdensoftware.com | 2048D/3A978E4F http://camdensoftware.com | http://chipstips.com | http://chipsquips= .com --DocE+STaALJfprDB Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (FreeBSD) iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJMj/L5AAoJEIpckszW26+RDboIAJdIIk90WuQgv34fcQsq/zO+ B/Rb+ldeskVO+dVwjkWsEJ9tPi+/L4keEYloeZtVYJrKawXRyqHLDwXLQ3eph2V3 QaGyq/0K1dH9rCijgCYx7n74YXYCxAtfYkXmfdYh3DZrtt1zsOSJv6Y+JeOGuPbA 2s+DSgqZdAC/VVfJVZpk5mAttLDh80dva4GB3WjqcCUdNUFbPMEQ3+0MvIuMOQDb LBgItkYrwkoIHXrUiDsxQIkxNrrlCoUGwDhQruhq7uqpd/WCRWu6+wkxnnfZoMnJ zNy42dbIjEcaRgleztG4PRuqza9a0/8F6TmQHvtrWeY3aQK6aOp4P+yuWNHAgvE= =d0pU -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --DocE+STaALJfprDB--