From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 25 18:26:39 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7674416A4CE for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 18:26:39 +0000 (GMT) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (CPE0050040655c8-CM00111ae02aac.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [69.194.102.111]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F45643D3F for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 18:26:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 6E082513B1; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 11:26:38 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 11:26:38 -0700 From: Kris Kennaway To: Bill Moran Message-ID: <20050425182638.GD40370@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <426BA8FA.3080602@samsco.org> <426BAAE4.1040606@incubus.de> <17005.12955.757773.350868@roam.psg.com> <20050425181329.GA41455@xor.obsecurity.org> <20050425141900.363bca66.wmoran@potentialtech.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="lc9FT7cWel8HagAv" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050425141900.363bca66.wmoran@potentialtech.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i cc: stable@freebsd.org cc: Kris Kennaway Subject: Re: background_fsck=no does not work? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 18:26:39 -0000 --lc9FT7cWel8HagAv Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Apr 25, 2005 at 02:19:00PM -0400, Bill Moran wrote: > Kris Kennaway wrote: >=20 > > On Mon, Apr 25, 2005 at 08:10:35AM -1000, Randy Bush wrote: > > > >> not always be clean. Softupdates (hopefully) means that it will be > > > >> consistent and recoverable, but what you're seeing here is normal = and > > > > Why "hopefully"? Aren't people convinced that it works correctly? > > >=20 > > > i am convinced, but some of the hosts seem not to be :-) > > >=20 > > > i see shutdowns which 0 0 0 0 and then shut, and when restarted > > > single user and fscked manually show errors. though i think this > > > may be in current, which is on most of my hosts. > >=20 > > Yeah, others have reported this problem on -current, but 5.x does not > > have it. >=20 > Actually, I have seen a similar problem on 5.x WRT OpenOffice ... > 0. OpenOffice hangs and cant' be killed > 1. Reboot system > 2. System claims all buffers flushed, then just hangs > 3. After hardbooting, filesystems need fscked >=20 > I noticed others with similar complaints about OpenOffice, so I haven't > said much. The problem also happens pretty rarely, and I don't have any > idea how to reproduce it on demand. What's needed to move forward on this is for someone to break to DDB when this happens and obtain a trace of the blocked process (and preferably a crashdump). See the developers' handbook for more information. Kris --lc9FT7cWel8HagAv Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFCbTZeWry0BWjoQKURAt0NAJ0aTM3MYDw4kiNV3EYXr1AIBYHzWQCgj8o9 2hSM3RdNWxXCdGDhE1qlt34= =Zi9b -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --lc9FT7cWel8HagAv--