From owner-svn-ports-all@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 1 10:57:37 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: svn-ports-all@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 82767642; Wed, 1 Apr 2015 10:57:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-pd0-x22b.google.com (mail-pd0-x22b.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400e:c02::22b]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4A62EA2E; Wed, 1 Apr 2015 10:57:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pddn5 with SMTP id n5so51521500pdd.2; Wed, 01 Apr 2015 03:57:36 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=sender:reply-to:subject:references:to:from:message-id:date :user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=BCvLsj6i3GknjxXS/9of2mLvDkaka/2xH7cZ+L+V/yU=; b=poOaGeIqS0YQSdcR94NqvtVYjhZ8YHbQrqYN5foKIWZRZhexKo5nL0Iy9kVoSnCJiG NeqAj3S2uNUQdXImOhnbnm+02tBq+ZJtPnKlTlzYXGt7dwX3Wolmji1DTWRXdqpCj+nQ 3UE/PTHQl5G+RZYR3zlM7c97ZGNvyJ+GeW23vntq2lSuwynF8p41dQZbt3o0HYlHf6xQ beymbBiWHJ09ZcDgdVe6gGKPxO2S/CfofnjgO/RPTaIbUFrNJaa3NSNaM3tv2D8WsnUR BLrEtHsdynABNnPLTGXe3bypnRbPWa/EwxwLELPH2BTG81GkqnrUVUxr2tdBMTUrRZDq itiA== X-Received: by 10.66.66.41 with SMTP id c9mr75117385pat.128.1427885856812; Wed, 01 Apr 2015 03:57:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.104] (ppp59-167-128-11.static.internode.on.net. [59.167.128.11]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id pf10sm1738568pbb.93.2015.04.01.03.57.33 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Wed, 01 Apr 2015 03:57:36 -0700 (PDT) Sender: Kubilay Kocak Reply-To: koobs@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: svn commit: r369643 - head/misc/getopt references: <201409301619.s8UGJg6b078754@svn.freebsd.org> <543844FA.1010908@FreeBSD.org> <551ADD5F.1060004@FreeBSD.org> To: Bryan Drewery , Sunpoet Po-Chuan Hsieh , ports-committers@freebsd.org, svn-ports-all@freebsd.org, svn-ports-head@freebsd.org From: Kubilay Kocak message-id: <551BCF17.2050303@FreeBSD.org> Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2015 21:57:27 +1100 user-agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:37.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/37.0 mime-version: 1.0 in-reply-to: <551ADD5F.1060004@FreeBSD.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: svn-ports-all@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: SVN commit messages for the ports tree List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 01 Apr 2015 10:57:37 -0000 On 1/04/2015 4:46 AM, Bryan Drewery wrote: > On 10/10/2014 3:43 PM, Bryan Drewery wrote: >> On 9/30/2014 11:19 AM, Sunpoet Po-Chuan Hsieh wrote: >>> Author: sunpoet >>> Date: Tue Sep 30 16:19:41 2014 >>> New Revision: 369643 >>> URL: http://svnweb.freebsd.org/changeset/ports/369643 >>> QAT: https://qat.redports.org/buildarchive/r369643/ >>> >>> Log: >>> - Fix PLIST when NLS option is off >>> >> >> Were these updates even tested? This wiped out 2200 packages this week >> on every branch. Portmgr failed when they copied head to Quarterly >> without checking for fallout, but quarterly is not very much used anyway. >> >> This broke xorg, git, xfce, qt, the list goes on. No packages are >> provided for this large list this week. >> >> Commits _must be tested_. >> > > Sorry for being so harsh here. > > In the past week I have deployed a new build script to the package > builders. If more than 1500 packages fail then the set is not published. > It will catch issues such as this. 1500 is 6% of the tree. > > Bryan > +1 We need more things that help us 'fail fast', 'fail cheap', 'fail safe' and 'fail closed', independent of, and in addition to 'test commits'.