From owner-freebsd-hackers Tue Jun 1 1:31:28 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from hermes.axis.de (hermes.axis.de [194.163.241.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 84C5814DE8 for ; Tue, 1 Jun 1999 01:31:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from maret@axis.de) Received: from erlangen01.axis.de by hermes.axis.de via smtpd (for hub.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.18]) with SMTP; 1 Jun 1999 08:31:26 UT Received: (private information removed) Message-ID: <91DA20EC3C3DD211833400A0245A4EA9BA0E54@erlangen01.axis.de> From: Alexander Maret To: hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RE: xl driver for 3Com Date: Tue, 1 Jun 1999 10:31:21 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, > -----Original Message----- > From: Greg Black [mailto:gjb@acm.org] > Sent: Dienstag, 1. Juni 1999 05:21 > To: Bill Paul > Cc: hackers@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: Re: xl driver for 3Com > > This whole argument strikes me as a good wake up call for all of > us. It really is important to make sure that problems with > software are reported and that those reports are framed in a > useful manner, because that is the only way that software gets > improved. I'm sometimes guilty of not bothering to report bugs > that I can easily work around, even though I hate it when people > who use my software do the same. I'm re-motivated now to make > the effort to contribute meaningful reports whenever I find bugs. I think you're absolutely right but consider normal users like me. I try to provider as many information as I can, but for developpers this isn't enough. Instead of saying: "Provide information!". You should ask detailed questions. > As for Dennis, he's just not worth responding to. He has a bad > reputation as a total waste of space with an attitude problem as > big as Texas. Just ignore him. Well this, I think, is the wrong way. You expect people to know as much as you. I think you can rewrite code on the fly, but many people can't and they need help from hackers like you. There are so many FreeBSD-Hackers who are whining that Linux has so many users and FreeBSD hasn't. If people don't get support because people like you are ignoring them, they won't switch to FreeBSD even if it is much better. Alex To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message